Cornell v. Villanova v. Boston College

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<p>Okay, so I have like four days left...</p>

<p>Any responses I would really appreciate! :) </p>

<p>So Cornell's ILR school, Villanova's school of business, or BC's school of business.
I am leaning towards Cornell or Nova.</p>

<p>Price:
Nova will be cheapest (10k-40k less than Cornell over four years)
BC will be a bit more than Cornell over four years.</p>

<p>Academics:</p>

<p>I am interested in management, entrepreneurship, and economics.
ILR is a very good management program, and BC's B-school is known for management, but I don't know much about Nova. It can't me that much of a step down? If any?</p>

<p>Cornell will offer me flexibility if I decide to change my interests, but I'm not sure if the Ivy name advantage will be worth the sacrifices in quality of life. The ILR program does seem to be the perfect program for my current interests though. But how much better is it? Nova's b-school is very good, and both BC and Nova are in great locations for interns. Could you argue they are better academically than Cornell? Will being able to intern in a city, for example, prove vital? </p>

<p>Quality of Life:
Honestly, I like them all. BC probably the most, Nova second, Cornell third.
I love the fact that they offer school spirit and big sporting events. Villanova's students are also described as very genial, but the Cornell student's Ive met have all been nice as well.</p>

<p>It's weird because BC's seems to have the highest quality of life, Cornell the best academics, and Nova is the cheapest, but they are all incredibly close. I'm not sure what academic program (BC or Nova) is better for me. </p>

<p>Diversity isn't a factor for me. I don't think I'll be unhappy at any of them, It's just a matter of where. </p>

<p>Please someone help! Thanks!</p>

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<p>I can’t exactly relate to having to make this kind of decision, but I can tell you that I have met students who chose Villanova over both BC and/or Cornell, so don’t feel like you are making a bad choice if you do choose to take the more financially friendly route.</p>

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<p>I’m going to be honest, that extra money will be irrelevant. Go to Cornell, the Ivy League name is big, especially in the fields you want to go to. Cornell has it’s own small school of economic thought and you have a lot to gain from that. Management school is is also top notch. Nova, if I’m not mistaken is more of a finance accounting school. A much different business field. </p>

<p>And also, to reside your views about interns, being Cornell, you will naturally get intern offers from New York, that should be the least of your concerns. It’d be a little bit more of a concern if you went to Nova or BC.</p>

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<p>BC and Cornell stand on their own merit , but Villanova Business and Wall St have a substantial connection.I know that Villanova is heavily recruited and have a substantial alumni in the financial industry.BusinessWeek ranks VSB as the #11 undergraduate business program in the nation. </p>

<p><a href=“http://www.villanova.edu/business/assets/documents/brochures/ugbrochure08.pdf[/url]”>VILLANOVA SCHOOL OF BUSINESS | Villanova University;

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<p>cornell…ivy league carries much more significance then rankings</p>

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<p>I don’t like to bring up rankings and namesake that much, but Cornell’s ranking and name is much more established than VSB’s. Minor flunctuations like this year are irrelevant. When it comes time to get a job, expect higher starting salaries and signing bonuses coming from Cornell. Also, I don’t know how much effects your decision, but Cornell girls are pretty good too :)</p>

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<p>Any of the 3 will be a good choice since they are all good schools. I am going to say Villanova is the best choice for you (as long as you like the atmosphere). Here’s why"</p>

<p>2009 Business Week Rankings for Undergraduate Business Schools:
Cornell - #8
Villanova - #11
Boston College - #17
source: [The</a> Top Undergraduate Business Programs](<a href=“http://bwnt.businessweek.com/interactive_reports/undergrad_bschool_2009/]The”>http://bwnt.businessweek.com/interactive_reports/undergrad_bschool_2009/)</p>

<p>[Boston</a> College - BusinessWeek](<a href=“http://images.businessweek.com/ss/08/08/0807_college_grads/39.htm]Boston”>http://images.businessweek.com/ss/08/08/0807_college_grads/39.htm)</p>

<p>More importantly (maybe), Future Earnig/Biggest Returns
Villanova - #11
Cornell - #26
Boston College - #38
source: [Boston</a> College - BusinessWeek](<a href=“http://images.businessweek.com/ss/08/08/0807_college_grads/39.htm]Boston”>http://images.businessweek.com/ss/08/08/0807_college_grads/39.htm)</p>

<p>Like I said, all three are very good options. Considering you can go to Villanova for significantly less money and you have as good (or possibly better) prospects for potential earning, it seems like the best choice. </p>

<p>As for the Ivy league thing, Cornell has certain colleges that are statutory rather than endowed. The statutory colleges are not considered ivy league. I if you choose Cornell because you want to tell people you went to an Ivy League school, make sure you are going to an endowed college.</p>

<p>Good luck.</p>

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<p>Just checked, Cornell ILR is a statutory college. I don’t really understand all the snobbery surrounding the ivy league but from what I have heard the endowed colleges look down their noses at the statutory, state funded colleges. I wouldn’t pay any attention to it except that GRMANNY is saying the Ivy connection is big and it may be to some people. If you are choosing a college so you can tell everyone you graduated from an ivy league school, make sure it is considered ivy league. (I imagine it is unless they have their own sports teams since it is really a sports league).</p>

<p>[Cornell</a> University - Search Cornell](<a href=“Cornell University | Search Pages”>Cornell University | Search Pages)</p>

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<p>All of the colleges at Cornell are considered to be part of Cornell University, and no distinction is made among Cornell’s seven colleges when it comes to rankings or for most other purposes. Therefore, if Cornell is an Ivy League school, then so is ILR.</p>

<p>In any event, the Ivy League is a sports conference. Cornell is a part of that sports conference. It just so happens that eight of the best regarded universities in the U.S. are in the Ivy League, but it is just a sports conference at the end of the day.</p>

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<p>Thanks everyone.</p>

<p>I have officially crossed BC off the list, it will be either Nova or Cornell :)</p>

<p>I have never heard ILR wouldn’t be considered an Ivy…I kind of find this ridiculous, but I’ll need to look into it…</p>

<p>Anyone else care to chip in? I am not holding to much stock in the rankings as they are all so close, but from Villanova seems to be an excellent school. Cornell beats it name-wise (better connections, etc), but academically both are very good. </p>

<p>Thanks guys</p>

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<p>College, I mispoke (typed) when I said conclusively that statutory colleges at cornell are not ivy league. I really don’t know as I said in my subsequent post. It’s just something I have heard Cornell people say. And, the reason I pointed out that they are ivy league if they have the same sports teams is because the ivy league is a sports conference. Part of the confusion is the way people refer to ivy league to imply prestige. You don’t see that in other conferences.</p>

<p>Don’t decide based on something that I have heard that probably isn’t true. Decide based on what suits you better.</p>

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<p>Yeah man, no problem. The Ivy league sports conference has turned into something more. I feel like a lot of people are pushing Cornell because of the Ivy league name, but i guess I’ll just need to decide on my own. Ahh this is a hard decision.</p>

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<p>If financial issues are a concern, then it really cannot hurt to choose Villanova. But to be honest, and this is coming from someone who was accepted/will attend Nova, Cornell is the obvious choice here. Nothing is like an Ivy League degree/education, and if you can afford it, it will certainly pay off in the long run. However, it is a VERY stressful environment from what I’ve heard and I’m not sure how much there is to do in terms of fun.</p>

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<p>yea, no one is arguing that nova is bad, but ivy league / cornell is always a safe bet around the country</p>

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<p>If you like smaller cities in the middle of nowhere, then Cornell is where to go. If your idea of fun is bright lights, noise, lots of city nightlife, then you should go to Nova. Ithaca and Philadelphia are clearly very different. Where could you live for 4 years?</p>

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<p>Swissmiss3 is right on. If you can stand living in a small city that’s VERY VERY isolated, then go Cornell. but remember that even buffalo is far from Ithaca and NY is at least four hours away. There are Cornell buses that go to Manhattan, but those are more than $60 one way.</p>

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<p>Congrats on your acceptances! Disclaimer: Villanova grad. My advice would be to visit each school and see where you feel you “fit.” I absolutely loved my VSB experience. Villanova is not an Ivy, but besides the perks of the Ivy name, reputation, etc, I can’t imagine a better educational experience than the one I received through VSB.<br>
Have fun in undergrad-- work hard, but have fun. Find a program that allows you to do both and takes care of you when it comes to finding a job (ie, look at placement statistics in the area you are interested in)</p>

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<p>So wait, what did College1221 decide on? Cornell, Nova, or BC??? Don’t leave us all hanging.</p>