<p>I can either major in biology at CU arts and sciences or biomedical engineering at U of R.</p>
<p>What degree would be best for going onto graduate school or med school?</p>
<p>I know Cornell has more all-around prestige, but U of R has a good BME program, and bio sciences.</p>
<p>So, what are the advantages to studying bio at Cornell? </p>
<p>For grad school in bio or BME, am I better off in Arts and Sciences, or Ag and LIfe?</p>
<p>Did you really start this thread? Cornell vs. U Rochester?....... :X</p>
<p>U of R is a reputabile school, but it's no Cornell. The prices are the same so unless you have a big scholarship at u of R i'm guessing money isn't a factor. The only reason why I could see why you would take U of R is if you wanted to have a higher class rank. If you went to Rochester it would be easier for you to be at the top of your class then Cornell, but I still wouldn't pick U of R</p>
<p>Thanks for the input. . . .</p>
<p>One advantage to Rochester I noticed, is it seems like within the engineering department there was a strong relationship between professor and student. The ratio in the BME program is almost 4:1. I have had a lot of contact with these professors and all will "bend-over-backwards" to help.</p>
<p>Plus they have Eastman! which is a plus since I love music.</p>
<p>It's such a touch call! </p>
<p>I think I'm more concerned about choosing between biomedical engineering and cornell biology! I would like to go to Cornell, but I just hope I can find the right program for me.</p>
<p>Even though, Cornell doesn't have a BME major for undergraduates, the BEE department does offer a concentration in BME. If you really want to do BME at Cornell, I would say transfer to CALS and study BEE. If you are a NY state resident, you will pay 20K less in the first three years (final year you have to graduate from College of Engineering, so you will have to pay the private tuition). Cornell BME department is on the rise, if you do research with the faculties from the grad BME department, you should have no problem to get into top rank BME grad programs.</p>
<p>Yeah but doesn't BEE focus more on Environmental Engineering, I'm not really interested in environmental engineering. . . . . .it's so much different from BME from what I have read and heard.</p>
<p>Hi! Cornell mom here. I believe Cornell is a fantastic school but you do have to find the right program to make it work for you. (especially if you are NY state resident and want to save some $). ECC is giving you some good advice. Friends son was also interested in BME and probably would have gone the CALS-BEE route if he had gone to Cornell. But he seemed to have had similar feelings about the Cornell program and decided to go to Duke for BME where he is now a sophmore. Before you make your final decision-visit Cornell and meet with some BEE professors or the BME advisor. I am sure they will be forthright with you and give you the type of info you need to help you make your decision. We had also visited U of R. My d gave it serious consideration as it too is a wonderful school. She decided to go to the ILR school and she is very happy with her decision. But if she had decided to study psychology or cognitive science (which she initially thought she was going to major in)-she too may have gone to U of R as she thought that would have been a better match. The more she had of AP psych in her Sr. year, the less interested she became in psychology. Good luck.</p>
<p>"Yeah but doesn't BEE focus more on Environmental Engineering, I'm not really interested in environmental engineering. . . . . .it's so much different from BME from what I have read and heard"</p>
<p>Yes and no. If you really want to find out more about BEE please feel free to ask me. I am a BEE junior doing BME.</p>
<p>ecc, one reason I'm reluctant to go into engineering in general is lack of time to pursue other interests. Do you feel you have enough time to fit everything you want to fit into your scheduel?</p>
<p>Also, how easy is it to transfer to CALS from Arts and Sciences if I choose to go that route?</p>
<p>StplayrXtreme,
Don't worry about not being able to find time to do what you love. Even though, you will get a lot of problem sets every week as an engineering student, you should have lots of time to do whatever you like. As of myself, during my free time I choose to do research or hang out with a few buddies of mine. Some of my engineering friends joined frats and others participate in EC activities such as debate team. Cornell Engineering isn't all about beating you down and make you study all day. Cornell Engineering actually encourages its students to be well-rounded.<br>
About transferring to BEE, once you are in the transferring process, all you need to do is to maintain a 3.0 GPA. You will be taking all the basic engineering courses, and it is really not that hard to get a 3.0 GPA.</p>
<p>My son is also weighing these 2 schools. He was admitted into CALS, he loves UorR and is also considering Brandeis. We're vising all the schools again this week and next. Any opinions out there??</p>
<p>Ryan O'Halloran?</p>
<p>Well cornell is definitly the better overall school between the two, and weather isn't a factor in this comparison. I was really suprised to see the title of this thread to be perfectly honest. in terms of med-school admissions, cornell grads who apply to med school with 3.4+ GPA have an 89% acceptance rate, compared to 50% nationally. Also, should you ever change your major, (very common, I think close to half of all college students don't graduate with the degree they originally foresaw) it's very easy to transfew between cornell's 7 colleges. No matter what degree you get, the name cornell on it will be prestigious. Any more specific questions or parts of your post I missed, please PM me!</p>
<p>I mean no disrespect to rochester, however, I hold it in very high standing, but cornell is simply in a different league. (no pun intended)</p>
<p>yes i'd go ivy league. i was offered of a $6,000 scholarship at u of r m y junior year, but i was dumb to have turned it down becuas e i felt i could have a chance entering ivy league or the same status top 20 us unis,,,,i no longer regret very much about my decision.</p>
<pre><code> agree with sparticus on that one. sparticus , you throw around the "cornell grads who apply to med school with 3.4+ GPA have an 89% acceptance rate" stat quite often, it is perfectly true. consider the high percentage, come on , if you qualify for that 3.4+ and smart about med school application, you could almost be guaranteed admission. the 50% national rate probably is for all types of gpa tho (some state u's could have peoople with 2. something applying) , not just 3.4+ s, but over all rate is still 76%, beats national average by at least 26%, so i bet cornell's top rate premed program and name help some
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<p>There's a lot of misinformation in this thread. BME isn't a subset of BEE. It's its own program that derives from the rest of the engineering programs. You can major in anything and minor in BME. Cornell is also in the works of creating an accredited BME program. Talk to professors at Cornell for the full scoop. Also, BEE AND BME ARE VERY DIFFERENT. The only thing that is common is that they both have "bio" in their names.</p>
<p>There is a thread in the Engineering subforum here on CC that addresses BME quite extensively. Please read that.</p>
<p>I didn't say that BME is a subset of BEE. I said BEE has a Biomedical Engineering "Concentration". However, there's no BME major for undergrad. The graduate department of BME is a separate department.</p>
<p>I use the stat often because there are about 20 threads about people trying to decide between cornell and XXX and they want to go to med school later on...so thats 20 occasions to use it :P I dont think anybody reads threads except regulars on the board. Others just post without reading. We should just refer ppl to other threads, but its more work to do that than to just retype the response.</p>
<p>heck you're more hardworking than i am , when I want to give out the same stat, i just do copy&paste yours. I'm sometimes even lazy just to type those things. i think i'll paste a whole bunch of generic advices on a word document and just do the cut n paste thing for diff. situations.
Those stats are good tho, if you see other noteworthy concerning comparisons or other top school's stats, plz post them (most are not as easily given or found than Cornell's med acceptance stat, for ex. i searched hours on arizona u's website, no such stat, they don't see m to do better than national average of 50% on med school acceptance rate)</p>
<p>well there have to be many schools below average to compensate for the above average schools.</p>
<p>I think that you, Ryan, should go wherever you have that gut feeling, as my brother was saying, you're going to be smart one way or another and if you have the drive, you can make it... He said when people used to tell him that he thought it was just some lousy inspirational speech, but it has been proven true, mind you, he went to Gtown, but you know...its like for me, deciding between Notre Dame and USC...I have no clue what to do, sometimes I hear ND is better and then I get nervous to go to USC.</p>