Cornell vs Vanderbilt

<p>Both are great schools, but I am trying to decide which to do ED for. I am looking for a school that would be good in preparing me for Med school, but also allow me to have a social life, and be a relatively good party school.</p>

<p>prbly vandy.</p>

<p>I would go with the College of Arts and Sciences at Cornell.</p>

<p>BUMP, these are my top 2 choices atm, does anyone else have anything else to say?</p>

<p>Depends what kind of person you are. Both are great schools, and as a whole I’d say Cornell’s reputation is a little better than Vanderbilt’s, though not by much. If you’re a little more liberal and laid back, choose Cornell - Vandy is known for being a little conservative and a little snobby. If you like nice weather, chose Vandy, Cornell’s winters are long and brutal, though Vandy is in Tornado Alley. For medical school, both would be amazing choices and as long as you perform well, would be impressive to admission committees.</p>

<p>Edit: I just saw you wanted a party school. In that case, Vanderbilt would win.</p>

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Although I would like to go to plenty of college parties and be able to do things such as drinking, I don’t want to limit myself by only going to party schools for the reason that I don’t see myself wanting to go to a party EVER weekend, maybe every few weeks, I’ll have to see.</p>

<p>Things that I would be considering are:
-Selectivity, I don’t want to waste my “ED” option, and I do have legacy at Cornell. It would be really nice to get into a school ED, I don’t want to have to do the applying RD due to the fact that I want to be able to enjoy senior year/senioritis.</p>

<p>-Where I would stand academically, I’m not sure if they are really “equal” or not, but since I want to go to Med School, where I would stand in the class is important as well.</p>

<p>-Campus: I would really like a campus that is large and separate from surrounding areas, for example I went to college of charleston and hated the fact that it was mixed into the city. I did like the McGill campus due to the fact that it was separated from the city, my only problem was that it was really small.</p>

<p>I have yet to visit either school but will be soon, information on how well the campus fits my ideal campus would be nice as well.</p>

<p>Cornell isn’t really in the middle of the city, but it’s not too far from the center of a small town. Moreover, from what I know about med school admissions, you’ll have to do really well academically in order to get into top med schools. This is regardless of whatever undergraduate institution you’re at.</p>

<p>As for the party scene, it’s large enough at Cornell. Since you don’t seem that seriously into it, you probably need not worry too much anyway. You should probably know some folks within a few weeks for whenever you do decide to go out.</p>

<p>Parties were never hard to find at Cornell, but they are not that great (frat parties have way too many freshman and get old after a while, but then again, I guess you will be a freshman soon enough). My hometown school (UF) is on a completely different level in that regard. If you really want to party, study abroad for one or two semesters in another country (I did both Dublin and Sydney my senior year this past school year!). Needless to say I got that out of my system and have been way more laid back since I graduated a few months ago.</p>

<p>Cornell’s campus is really big for the size of the school (I grew up around a school that has a city 4x the size of Ithaca literally built around it). Ithaca commons are within (long) walking distance, but honestly I almost never left campus as there is not much to do anywhere around other than college town house parties (also grocery shopping when I lived off campus but that was about it). Cornell is definitely more prestigious than Vandy, but Vandy is highly regarded as well and both would be fine for med school. I had no interest in med school (or any post grad for that matter), so do not know too many specifics, but do have a lot of friends who were premed (many of whom graduated with honors), and are about to begin med school. </p>

<p>One thing I will say is the winter weather sucks and my first time ever seeing snow was at Cornell. Lets just say I refuse to ever live in the northeast again and I went on exchange to Australia during the Ithaca winter this year (which is the Aussie summer) for reasons other than new academic experiences or the nearly unbearable exchange rate. This has more to do with my being a 5th generation Floridian than anything though, so take it with a grain of salt if you are from a cold area already. With that said I do not regret my decision to attend Cornell and am now a proud alumnus. There was definitely more good than bad, and I have a lot of respect for that place.</p>

<p>Ithaca commons are within (long) walking distance, but honestly I almost never left campus as there is not much to do anywhere around other than college town house parties (also grocery shopping when I lived off campus but that was about it).</p>

<p>This is subjective, though. There’s stuff around, but one has to look (or have decent transportation).</p>

<p>Haha, I am definitely used to the cold weather having lived in New England most of my life-needless to say I still don’t enjoy it, and studying abroad is something I would highly consider. At this point both schools are about even in my mind, and one thing that would make a difference is which I am more likely to get into. From what I can tell Vandy has a higher acceptance rate, but on the other hand I have a legacy at Cornell, any input on which I would have a higher chance at getting into ED?</p>

<p>Cornell also convinced me to never live in the northeast again - cold horrible weather, rude dirty people, and old buildings. I’m use to the clean, warm, AIR CONDITIONED South.</p>

<p>That’s a biggie. People in Ithaca don’t seem to think you need air conditioning - the gym is not air conditioned (so it’s so hot!, the even turn the heat up in the winter). If you live in the dorms - no air conditioning. If you live off campus, very few apartments have air conditioning. It’s pretty miserable for the first month and a half and last 2 months or so of school each academic year - and HORRIBLE if you stay over the summer.</p>

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<p>That’s such a terrible and uninformed opinion on the east coast. Okay, we get it, don’t mess with Texas, you love the South, everyone there is hospitable, and where you are from is the best, but I hope you realize that the people at Cornell != northeastern people. In fact, most things about Cornell are not reflective of the northeast, including the weather. I don’t know if you’ve ever been to a city in the northeast or not, but the buildings are air conditioned, many are modern and not everyone is a dirtbag– there are just as many in the NE as there are in the south. </p>

<p>OP, don’t listen to this ■■■■■’s opinion on the northeast.</p>

<p>I love how hating the northeast makes me a ■■■■■. </p>

<p>Anyway, I’m just ensuring the OP understands that finding air conditioned buildings in Ithaca and upstate NY is difficult. As a whole, the NE seems to rely less on AC, though I will admit the problem is a little more blatant in upstate NY. Despite that, it is a mix of things (I’ve been all over the NE and have lived here for 5 years now) that make me realize the quality of life here is a little lower than it is in many areas of the South (not all areas, simply the newer areas like the Triangle in North Carolina).</p>

<p>For example, in the Raleigh area, you can rent a brand new, air conditioned 2BR apartment in a nice complex with a pool and hardwood floors, granite counter tops, etc for about $700 total, near the colleges such as UNC, Duke, or NC State. In Ithaca (a much less desirable city), renting an old, run-down, non-AC apartment with 2 bedrooms usually costs about $700 PER PERSON ($1400 total) if not more. Ithaca real estate is completely out of hand because they take advantage of the wealthy Cornell kids and give them horrible accommodations that are way overpriced. You won’t have that issue in the South at quite the same level.</p>

<p>Don’t worry, as I said before, I’m from NE so I do know what it’s like here, while I do have to say I don’t love the cold, I’m not going to cross Cornell off my list because it’s a little bit colder, I’ve been dealing with weather like that my entire life. It’s nice to know that the NC triangle has newer and less expensive buildings, but i’ve been to Duke and it isn’t going to be my ED school, maybe if I have to do RD it will be applied to but not ED. What I am wondering about is which would be easier for me to get into ED?</p>

<p>1) Vanderbilt
-32% admit rate
-SAT: 1390-1470
2) Cornell w/ legacy
-35.5% ED admit rate
-SAT: 1300-1500</p>

<p>It seems like to me that I would have a much greater chance at Cornell, am I right?</p>

<p>The legacy would probably help quite a bit with Cornell I think. The numbers may be pretty close, but as most folks here will tell you, admission to any school is not guaranteed.</p>

<p>Vandy may appear to be slightly more selective than Cornell in terms of test scores, but overall it is still harder to get into Cornell (especially CAS/COE). The ECs and class rank of the people who attend Cornell are more impressive than those of Vanderbilt students. Cornell’s international reputation also supersedes Vanderbilt’s.</p>

<p>How is Cornell harder to get into than Vandy? Cornell has a higher acceptance rate. Also, I don’t care very much about the difference in prestige between the two, in fact I’m saying that I would rather apply to the school that is easier to get into and in which I would be ranked more highly, so would that be Cornell or Vandy?</p>

<p>Cornell’s acceptance rate is higher because it’s an overall average - it’s an aggregate of all of Cornell’s separate undergraduate colleges. You would be applying to Arts and Sciences, which has an acceptance rate below 15%.</p>

<p>Have you visited Vandy? </p>

<p>While coming from New England, you probably don’t think the people in the Northeast are MEAN, but you will see that people are very different outside the northeast. I’m going to school in the Midwest and the people are so much more patient and and laid back than the people in NY are. It seems almost fake coming from the Northeast, but I like it :). I’m so excited to finally live there soon!</p>

<p>If you’re really unsure though, don’t apply ED!! I cannot stress this enough. I have a friend who applied ED two years ago (to Cornell coincidentally) and all I ever saw on Facebook was statuses about how unhappy she was. A couple fewer months of stress are not worth giving up 4 years of happiness. Also, if you get in RD, you can be sure that you really deserve to be there, not just because you’re a legacy.</p>

<p>I gave up my ED to Penn as a legacy because I wanted to apply ED to Brown. I didn’t get into either by the time RD came around and I never looked back. I didn’t even know what half of my options really were TBH until I visited them after I didn’t get into any Ivies. Make sure you complete the college application process with an open mind :)</p>

<p>ED to Vandy is easier than ED to Cornell CAS/COE by a fair amount. As long as you have strong quantitative statistics (33+ ACT and top 10% in class), your chances are strong at Vanderbilt whereas at Cornell they are less predictable.</p>