Cornell's new ugly building

<p>Uris Hall has been replaced with Milstein Hall</p>

<p>actually, I think it's the best possible option given the horrible location. The arts quad still retains its integrity, yet sibley and rand are now connected and an enormous new building is being put into place. It's only visible from behind sibley, anywyas.</p>

<p>Please don't tell me that Milstein Hall is also going to drip rust for thirty years. :(</p>

<p>I dont think there's going to be any metal on the outside. Mostly concrete with tons and tons of glass.</p>

<p>the design of Milstein Hall addresses the issues at hand in a very creative manner and it definitely beats the previous proposals. rem koolhaas is a genius. you can't simply judge the integrity of the building by its look!</p>

<p>His name is Koolhas? Wow ever read Michael Kohlhaas? lol just finished it in Lit (my teacher loves German lit heh)</p>

<p>The Arts quad is turning into the Engineering Quad with the interconnectedness of the buildings. :(</p>

<p>does anybody know if milstein is going to be a sustainable building like the new business school building being put up at ithaca college?</p>

<p>milstein's primary objectives were not based on sustainability but i'm pretty sure any good design, like milstein's, functions in a way that will be energy efficient. although I must say, the large amount of glass will probably require a lot of heating costs in the winter. the punctured ceiling however will help allow natural lighting into the structure.</p>

<p>I don't know, perhaps the building will grow on me, but I just expected something a bit more inspiring for the nation's top architectural school. I mean a big glass box? It doesn't even preserve the classic styling of Sibley Hall, imo it clashes horribly with what's going on around it.</p>

<p>well obviously cornell's not going to construct a building that looks like sibley..we live in 2006..not in the 1860's and have current operations that would make a building like sibley hall inadequate for our needs. the design of milstein hall actually preserves Rand and Sibley Hall, which in the previous proposals would have destroyed the two.</p>

<p>spyrey - you don't like the interconnectedness in the engineering quad? i rather like it - separate, yet connected :)</p>

<p>why not? princeton builds gothic as does Duke. Modern architecture will not last to be around 100 years later. It's glass and metal, where's the greatness to that? What impresses you more, a glass box or Sibley?</p>

<p>sashimi46, when they renovated Lincoln Hall on the arts quad from '96 to 2000 they made sure the 18,640 square-foot addition was designed to blend gracefully with the existing structure. In my opinion, the design for Milstein could, in a similar manner, complement the styling of the existing buildings. Think how a huge modernist glass block is going to look in 10, 20, 30 years. The stunning Uris Hall comes to mind, which isn't saying much. They could definitely be doing (and have done in the past) what Duke and Princeton do with their buildings.</p>

<p>i'm not into arguments but im in a really archi-geeky mood right now so i'll let it out. you have to understand that architecture simply isn't just an aesthetic thing. As time changes, the needs for society change as well. That is why having a gothic building today, although would blend smoothly aesthetically speaking to the campus, would be horribly outdated and insufficient to the current operations and solutions needed for today. Gothic architecture satisfied the needs for its times back in the day but now in today's time, the design of the building needs to follow our culture, way of living. i'm sure in the 1860's, they were all thinking that lincoln hall was a piece of s*** and that they should design something a little more traditional. In the future, modern architecture will be seen as how we see gothic architecture today. it's just a matter of perspective. we need to stop looking at the past and look at how architecture can best fit our modern operations and enhance our way of living.</p>

<p>munited, a random question, did u lose ur keys and went to appel to get a loaner key? i think i was working that day. the name sounded very familiar</p>

<p>lol, yea i have done that atleast 3 times</p>

<p>it mustve been ur first time cuz you said u had a voucher.</p>

<p>Don't worry about Milstein; it's not very far into the design anyway. OMA admits that it hasn't gotten far past the conceptual design stage. Furthermore, I highly doubt that the project will be completed as it appears in the current plans. The building will most likely not traverse the road (WAY to expensive) and there are also some other issues with the building (ex. the entire building is oriented to the North- no light whatsoever). Hopefully Rem will come up with something more suitable to Ithaca.</p>

<p>i disagree..milstein hall by OMA is probably by far the most likely proposal that will be built because 1, the design addresses issues better than previous proposals, 2, there has been no protest from the arch alumni, and 3, this project has been planned for years now and a lot of effort has been put into this whole collaboration so I'm sure they wouldn't give up the plan by now.</p>

<p>milstein hall's roof is punctured with many sky lights so in fact, the building would recieve much more natural lighting than simply orienting the building towards the north. </p>

<p>i don' tthink it's too expensive to build something over the road but we'll see how it goes..the building traversing the road is a crucial part of the whole design of the building and its intent and idea would be lost if it didn't.</p>