<p>It's not terribly surprising since CAS is the least specialized. If you want to study architecture or hotel management or ILR, there are few choices and Cornell is tops in those fields. CAS provides a good education as well but most top schools pretty much provide the same (excellent) liberal arts education so you'll have lower yield at CAS.</p>
<p>mondad is spot on. Yield is related to a bunch of things, including location, finances (merit money and better need-based aid, such a no-loan schools), size, and the like. Even a four-year guarantee of on-campus housing, or an all Frosh community, could be enough to sway some applicants.</p>
<p>There were 3 ED accepted from my school. Here were their stats: </p>
<h1>1</h1>
<p>SAT 1: 2040
Rank: 10/538
SAT II: 770 Bio, 700 Math 1, 680 Chem
EC's: Horseback riding, church involvement, NHS</p>
<h1>2</h1>
<p>SAT I: 2280
Rank: 2/538
SAT II: 770 Math 1, 720 Chem
EC's: NHS, Key Club, and a bunch of random volunteering</p>
<h1>3</h1>
<p>SAT I: 2250
Rank 6/538
SAT II: 770 Math 2, 740 Chem
EC's: Hockey and NHS</p>
<p>I'm sorry, but I've seen a lot of rejected/waitlisted seniors who have muuuch better stats. What's the deal?</p>
<p>Out of curiosity, people keep saying that ILR and HumEc are the "top in their field". Where is this information from?</p>
<p>Name another university with colleges such as those...and Cornell had the first ILR themed college in the U.S. (if i recall correctly)</p>
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<p>Aggregate stats like this tell you nothing, especially without knowing which college these students will enroll in. Cornell very much looks beyond these types of numbers. </p>
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Out of curiosity, people keep saying that ILR and HumEc are the "top in their field". Where is this information from?
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<p>ILR is recognized as the pre-eminent institution of its kind in the country; it hosts the largest collection of labor economists, labor historians, organizational psychologists, and human resource specialists.</p>
<p>Human Ecology is a bit trickier, as its an amalgamation of more disparate fields. Its program in nutrition and public health is widely recognized as one of the top three in the country, and its health and consumer economics faculty are widely known across the country. The school is also more or less credited with developing the field of human development and child psychology.</p>
<p>Cornell's not selective? Tell that to the 80% of applicants it rejects. Acceptance rate isn't even a good indicator, as the caliber of Cornell applicants is arguably better than the caliber of students applying to most colleges. Pretentious jackasses like you who judge a person's worth by their SAT scores are what's wrong with the Ivy league, and hopefully you will get a reality check one day. For all your good grades and AP scores, you're not very bright. I hope you're not actually picking a college based on how selective it is...if you are, rest assured Cornell is one of the most selective universities in the world.</p>
<p>It's funny how people would turn it down cause of the cold...then again, I didn't consider anything in a warm climate...I'm a Northeastern girl who likes to have 4 seasons, not "Warm" and "excruciatingly humid"</p>
<p>Cornell is SO selective that it doesn't even have a numeric system of giving people admissions into the college.
Selectiveness is not only just how less applicants a college would accept in a given year, but it can also be separately how it chooses it's right people, and if it sounds random the way they choose their people, then it's probably the most selective school. If you saw in a certain website of how many rejects there were among the accepted in the high range of GPA and SAT, it would be very similar, if not looks random.</p>
<p>The definition of selective is:</p>
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<li>discerning: tending to make careful choices</li>
<li>not universal: applying to some but not others</li>
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<p>Cayuga, I've heard that.. but where is that from? I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just wondering WHO says that..</p>
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<p>It's just conventional wisdom -- a collection of observations and inferences held by a bunch of people in the know. Sort of like how Oxford is better than Cambridge for producing politicians or how Yale is the best Ivy for students interested in the performing arts.</p>
<p>while I concur that the subject colleges are (among) the best in their undergradute fields, let's not get too carried away: there are few, very few, Unis that actually offer such undergrad programs such spcialized programs as ILR, hotel...; so being the best of (a handful?) is impressive yes (any person, any study), but....</p>
<p>Don't forget, even most top-ranked B-schools do not offer undergrad biz.</p>
<p>btw: Michigan State has an excellent labor program. UNLV has a hotel program that rivals Cornell's.</p>
<p>I see EXACTLY what you mean, stargazerlilies. </p>
<p>Some background info: Indian parents, like my mom, love to compete as to who has the smartest kid. Well, within my mom's friend circle, I was the only kid who got accepted to my ED Ivy. What they started doing was turning it around and saying that I got into Cornell because Cornell is apparently really easy to get into. As it is, I hate the fact that my mom even takes part in these bragging contests, but some of those parents are outright toxic.</p>
<p>It's just a sour-grapes attitude that people have with Cornell. If they didn't get in, they tend to say, "Oh well. Cornell wasn't good enough for ME anyway." There's also this guy in my high school who ED'd to Cornell and got rejected. He started consoling himself by saying that Cornell's tennis courts are always frozen over anyway, so Cornell wasn't worth his time. So now I know he was apparently planning to go to Cornell to play tennis and not to study whatever he was planning to study.</p>
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<p>And then there are all of those departments which Cornell offers that plenty of other colleges offer as well... chemistry, English, sociology, environmental studies. I seem to recall Cornell doing pretty well in those departments as well.</p>
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<p>Cornell's main tennis courts are located inside.</p>
<p>Quality not.. unquantity</p>
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<p>Unquestionably and, like Cal-Berkeley and every other Uni, their individual reputations are based on graduate programs, not undergrad.</p>
<p>LOL nasen I'm south asian as well (paki) I know that game all too well. </p>
<p>Does anyone realize how ridiculous it is that people on this board have to justify Cornell's strengths? Cornell is a world class institution, one of the best colleges in the world, all of its programs rank highly.
1/4 of Americans earn a Bachelor's degree, and less than 1% go to top colleges. If you think Cornell is not selective or elite, you need to log off of CC and step into the real world, where your worth isn't measured by your SAT score. Some people need a serious reality check...</p>
<p>Until I created an account on CC, I never realized people harbored any disdain for Cornell at all. I come from Long Island, and in its homestate, Cornell is regarded SO highly. Maybe because I go to an "inferior" college like NYU I can appreciate Cornell even more instead of classifying it as a "lower" Ivy, whatever the hell that means.</p>
<p>And it's NOT that cold in NY. I'm so tired of hearing pussies whine about how it's cold here. Even at NYU, there's all these "SoCal" girls (that's what they call themselves) crying about the cold...ugh go back to Laguna Beach and frolick on the beach with L.C. Then again, I couldn't bear a summer there, so maybe I shouldn't make fun of them lol :)</p>
<p>NYU is not inferior... it's also a great institution.
But if someone wants to have the opinion that Cornell is inferior, let them have it! There is nothing we can do to change their ignorant, misinformed, provincial minds. Let them get their Harvard rejection letters, and then let them realize that the world is not handed to them with a silver platter and a bib saying "Someone Who Loves Me Has Connections In Harvard Admissions".</p>
<p>lol chandler...haha NYU is a great college, but not the Undergrad experience I want. Would love to go to NYU for Law school though! If I could get in.
Yeah, but if these people look down on Cornell, I can't imagine what they must think of NYU...probably that it's where all the dyslexic kids go to color for 4 years.</p>
<p>Haha I'd rather go to a college where dyslexic kids color for 4 years than a place where half the student body's mommies and daddies just HAPPEN to have BFF's in undergraduate admissions.</p>
<p>whats the difference?</p>