If you are a Canadian citizen, then for Canadian universities you are a Canadian. You would pay Canadian tuition.
We live in the US, but both daughters and I have dual citizenship. One daughter is currently at university in Canada. They have consistently treated her as if she was a valued family member returning home for the first time.
āIf they are looking for a great soprano and you are an alto you might not get the part.ā
The same article that I mentioned above also said that in years where the marching bandās tuba player is graduating, then will accept a few tuba players hoping to get one for the band. The point is that acceptance is very difficult to predict, and can be based on things that seem random.
Oddly enough, I do remember the Tuba player. At one football game they announced that they had a practice at 8am the previous day, and only band members who showed up were allowed on the field. The tuba player and the drum player marched on the field (only the two of them). Then they announced that everyone else would join them, and perhaps 100 people ran on the field randomly from all directions with various instruments.
There is no question that for schools like Stanford, the applicant on paper could be perfect but still be rejected because of the sheer number of great candidates for limited spaces. For that reason, the OP should not feel overly discouraged. The OP though was asking if there was anything he/she might be able to do to improve the next round of apps. Here it seemed to me that he/she did need to make sure that his/her essays matched his/her record and that OP research the relevant major(s) at each college. It sounds like from the original post, this was an area that was not buttoned up in the Stanford app.
I totally understand OPās point of view. I recently met the same fate and Iāve been wanting to ask the same question so many times, but I know that no one except the AOs will have an answer to it. It really stings because I had my heart set on Stanford - I still think that out of all the T20s, it was the perfect one for me. In hindsight there are so many things Iād do different in the way I presented my application, and I just wish I had another chance to apply in RD. Iād be lying if I said I hadnāt contemplated sending an email to my AO just to get a clue into what didnāt work. Any tips on how to move on?
I totally get what you mean. While Iāve not much advice bc Iām going through the same grieving process, I wish you the best of luck in other colleges.
(Maybe check out Duke? Itās quite similar to Stanford from what I heard)
understood. Thank you
Be prepared you could be rejected from Duke as well. Their acceptance rate is extremely low as well. If you think the school itself is a fit, then go for it.
These schools have tons of academic superstar applicants and cannot take all of them. I know kids who were rejected by Stanford in December and admitted by Harvard and Yale a few months later. With the same application.
You may want to look at your essay again and ask yourself if it really reflects you. Does it make you, as a person, come alive? You can change it if youāre not satisfied. Or maybe you are. But other than that, thereās little you can change.
NYU is not a match or safety. Many of the UCs are not matches or safeties. Do you live in CA? If not, they are definitely not all matches or safeties. You will get no financial aid at any CA public universities.
You have amazing stats! My D and almost all HS graduates wish they had your stats!
The problem I see in your app from the warped admissions perspective of top universities is your unweighted GPA. The VERY top schools accept kids with almost perfect GPAs from our HS like 25-75 percentile is 3.97-4.0 WGPA. My D goes to a very competitive school too.
You have done a lot of great things and donāt let one schools rejection put a damper on it. We live on the East Coast so I canāt speak to your chances at UCs- Iām just not familiar with the process but youād be an excellent candidate for many of our schools. University of WI, University of Georgia, NYU, Boston College, Wake Forest, NorthWestern etcā¦
At the top, itās so hard! Youāll find an excellent school thatās right for you.
You need to balance being an excellent candidate (which the poster definitely is) with the fact that a number of these schools have admit rates that put them more in the āreachā category (northwestern single digits, NYU 15%, UGA Iām not sure but for OOS it will be way less than the headline rate), etc. I agree with @Lindagaf that what poster has listed as āmatches and safetiesā probably mostly arenāt, maybe a few of the UCs. Some real matches and safeties certainly need to be added to the list imo. Itās very likely poster gets an admit to one of the schools on his/her list, but by no means certain, and that is why having real matches and safeties matters. (And Iām just guessing here, but ticking all the boxes for all the UCs may mean that your ārealā current match/safety are not ones you really want to go to - not if you had your sights set on Stanford.)
@whippymop can you please clarify if you have a green card - as you say you are getting your citizenship in a year? If a green card holder you are treated as a domestic applicant and that can make a difference at many colleges.
@SJ2727 Agree about those schools not necessarily being a match. I live about 20 mins away from Northwestern and we used to sent more than 10 kids a year there but as their applicant pool has increased, now you essentially need a 4.0UW to get in there or an outrageously high Weighted to get in with top scores.
Also, my kid at an Ivy has a ton of friends there that wanted Northwestern over that Ivy and were either rejected or waitlisted so Northwestern is not a safe bet for anyone. Part of the draw aside from being in a great city like Chicago and on the lake front is that it is part of the Big 10 so you get the big sports here too and Evanston where it is located is a big draw for the college students and people who live there. Personally I canāt stand driving to downtown Evanston because itās always crowded and hard to get parking. Maybe not in Covid but generally so. But people love it. My kids didnāt want to apply because ātoo closeā, but working on #4 to apply if he doesnāt get into his ED. Also another draw is their supplementary essay is a joke.
Yes, I do live in Ca. Iāll keep that in mind, but Iāve also applied and gotten into penn state + stony brook, which should really be safeties
Hmm, I mean I wouldnāt mind going to penn state, and Iāve already gotten inā¦?
I do not have a green card, however.
My sister ran a program at Penn State, and her husband was department chair in another discipline before recently retiring. You might really like it there. Big-time sports, a decent ācollege townā district near the campus, and plenty of opportunity to excel. The āopportunityā part is all anyone really needs. An Ivy for example forces you to work hard, but you can get just as much or sometimes even more done in four years at any reputable school (like Penn State) if you decide to push yourself harder than needed and reach for difficult goals.
Ok - I donāt think that was on your list above, if you are in and happy to go there then absolutely you have your safety covered and you may as well just shoot for the reaches.
I donāt see how you can be getting citizenship in a year if you are not already a permanent resident? One follows the other. In any case, if no green card then yes you are in the international pool.
What would Penn State cost you? What is your budget? What is your budget without taking on any debt?
This is just my opinion but I think you were rejected because you didnāt necessarily fit for what you were applying for. Your extracurriculars and research were kind of all over the place and you really didnāt have a spike (narrative). For example I had a friend who applied to Stanford REA and she was accepted. I think she was because all her extracurriculars intertwined with one another and she pursued classes at school and at Stanford that would let her continue pursuing topics that related to her extracurriculars. I think if you wouldāve applied for bio chemistry you couldāve had a better shot because of your research. Keep in mind I am not an admissions officer and I have no clue what was happening in the admissions room this is just my opinion from trends I have seen.
Iām in full agreement with you. Choosing to apply STS was a last minute and not very well thought out decision. my essays, esp my intellectual curiosity and PS, were all on epidemiology and biochem research. I think choosing that major probably hindered my chances significantly. (btw, I took ochem at Stanford too)
Full pay. Itās not that much of a problem for my family, fortunately, and Iād just be happy going somewhere regardless of price. idk my family income but iām sure itās more than enough for college tuition.