COVID-19 hitting too close to home?

@compmom I’m wishing both you and your mother the very best.

@compmom Really, really hoping you are ok. I’m always afraid when we visit FIL that he’ll actually give it to us with as much as he goes shopping and to meetings.

@Creekland I think you meant to direct that last comment at @compmom! I’m fine. I had a former client and his Dad who died early on in the epidemic, but since then everyone I know who’s had it has recovered, though I think at least one is in the long-hauler category.

@mathmom - thank you, you’re right! I corrected it to reflect that. I’m thankful for the new system that allows us to correct such things past 15 minutes.

Unfortunately, I have one to add too. A relative of med school lad’s GF was just put on a ventilator yesterday. They’re 31.

It’s really, really irritating to hear some people still dismiss the virus and call it a hoax or “not that bad.” If people get it and have no or few issues, be thankful, because not everyone draws that straw. Many don’t.

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My husband first came down with symptoms on 12/17 and me a couple of days later. We both along with our DD tested positive . Son home from college tested negative (he thinks he had it in October). I had him tested for antibodies but he had none even though he remained negative the entire time so he still must have some immunity.

DH has no idea where he got it as he’s been home almost all the time and is diligent about wearing a mask. But truth is it’s spreading all around our area so it’s not surprising

We’ve had moderate symptoms but I am tired of people who say it’s “just the flu”. I am still having lung problems. The reason we are so divided is because people formulate opinions based on their own experiences. So if you had very mild symptoms or know no one who even had it it’s easy to dismiss.

What I found most difficult is that medical care is hard to get unless you are critical. Primary care doctors here won’t see anyone in person even with a sore throat. Preventative measures like monoclonal antibodies or special drugs (to lessen symptoms) are reserved for those in an “at risk” category (we are not).There is no in-between care. Either you stay home and fight it out yourself or you go to the ER.

My husband had lung pain and we wanted to stave off worsening pneumonia if he had it. An ER visit for us is $5000+. Fortunately he was on day 10 and an urgent care was able to give him a chest xray to rule it out. But otherwise you are considered contagious and no one will see you.

This is worrisome to me because there are many people not in the “at risk” category who end up critical. And because of their ages they don’t qualify for treatments that might help them recover and avoid hospitalization.

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question: how do you know when your elderly loved ones can get a vaccine? I know each state is different, but we don’t know where to start looking for our 89/79 yr old parents . . any thoughts appreciated.

A Trader Joe’s in Fresno, CA was forced to close because of an anti-mask-wearing protest.
https://www.sfgate.com/coronavirus/article/antimask-covid-protest-Fresno-Trader-Joes-15842614.php

@compmom : Anxiously waiting to hear how you’re doing! Thinking of you.

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So far, known some people who have had or are assumed to have had COVID-19. Age 20s to 50s, no deaths.

“Symptom” means whether symptomatic or noticed (other than by testing).
“After Effects” means whether there are noticed limitations or disabilities after recovery and presumed virus clearance.

Person  Symptom After   Notes
                Effects
#1      Y       N?
#2      Y       Y
#3      N       N       assumed from close contact with #2, not tested
#4      Y       ?
#5      Y       ?
#6      N       N       positive antibody test
#7      Y       Y

For a long time I didn’t know anyone personally who was positive for Covid-19. However, that has changed since Thanksgiving when cases started surging in the Los Angeles area. Now I know at least four people locally who’ve had Covid-19, one of whom is a hygienist in the dental office where I work. Because she came to work thinking she only had a cold and then found out later that she tested positive, the office was closed for ten days and we all had to get tested. Her whole family had it, but she had the worst symptoms even though she’s the healthiest. Thankfully, she didn’t have to be hospitalized. I also know a couple in their late 60s who both got it–the husband much worse than the wife. He was laid low for three weeks, but also didn’t have to be hospitalized. The fourth person is the director of the women’s chorus I sing in. She’s only in her 40s, but has a pre-existing condition that put her at risk. She has been isolated at home since before Christmas and is feeling better, but now has a case of Bell’s palsy, which may or may not be related.

I also found out around Christmas that my uncle (in his 80s) in rural Illinois had tested positive. Because of his age and the fact that he’s both diabetic and has only one kidney, they initially treated him with monoclonal antibodies. However, he ended up having a heart attack and was hospitalized on Christmas Eve. It was touch and go for the first couple of days, but after treatment with high-flow oxygen along with Remdesivir and dexamethasone, he started to improve. He was released from the hospital a few days ago and is still short of breath and weak, but glad to be home. I think his recovery is going to be slow. My aunt also tested positive, but has remained asymptomatic.

I know of a couple of people who had bells palsy associated with covid. One took a few MONTHS to go away and she was very frustrated by it.

I started with a monster headache Friday night which lasted 36 hours. Fluish. tired, achy, and today lungs feel a little heavy if I talk loudly (on phone with deaf mother) or a lot. My oxygen levels are fine (have an oximeter) and temp 95.9- 98.4. Had a test this morning. By the time you get a slot for a test, you are past the 3 days for ideal window for monoclonal antibodies and I think the earlier the better for remdesivir.

I am taking Vitamin C, D, and B’s, zinc, elderberry, famatodine, melatonin, and aspirin all at safe doses. Nothing crazy. MD’s are very busy!

My mother and I are both on day 3 actually. She called me 5 times yesterday, including a good night call at 7pm, so that was hopeful. She just called and is trying to eat some lunch. No cough, not short of breath, but feels very sick and very tired.

My private nurses are upset at the lax protocols at my mother’s assisted living. They will not go back to do the colostomy until my mother is tested again and the nursing director says no!

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There’re higher incidences of Bell’s palsy among those infected and there’re more than expected number of cases among those vaccinated during the vaccine trials.

Yep, those are exactly the people (and types of people) I’m referring to. They are so dumb, and while being dumb isn’t a crime, they put other people’s lives at risk because of their perceived slights. That’s the irritating part.

Using their reasoning, anyone could shop with no clothes on at all…

Maybe that should be the rule. You can only go maskless nude!

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Start with local health department.

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I suggest that people google their local health departments and see what information they have on line before calling.

In my limited knowledge, local health departments are very small and overworked. You might find all the information you need on their website.

I googled and went to my local health department. My state is only inoculating 1A right now. There are no state wide plans for any other priority at this moment.

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@compmom, once you and your mom recover, will you be able to have in person time together again?

In theory, a group of people who all have immunity can have a private gathering in a private location without needing precautions like doing it outside, maintaining distance, and/or wearing masks.

The question is, how confident are you that recovery from natural infection means immunity? There have been uncommon reports of reinfections, so immunity from natural infection does not appear to be 100%, but how much natural infection leads to immunity is unknown as of now.

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Ucb, I heard an 8% rate of being discharged from the hospital, then readmitted within a few weeks. That was for a local-ish area around me, not specifically my city/town.

It seems high. I don’t know. It’s something I haven’t seen reported in the general media. I just caught some health official or doc on the radio mentioning.