Current Scripps Student

<p>Scripps has a 12.0 scale for GPA. It's a little weird at first, but you get used to it, and I've actually come to prefer it. Among other things, it means you're usually pleasantly surprised when you convert :p</p>

<p>A = 12, A- = 11, B+ = 10, B = 9, etc. It just keeps everything in wholes.</p>

<p>To convert to a 4.0 scale, simply divide by 3 (straight A's = 4.0, straight B's = 3.0, etc.). Note that this will be a weighted conversion (and most colleges do weight +/- grades). </p>

<p>The career office recommends just putting the 4.0 conversion on applications and resumes, and since the transcript includes all letter grades, I don't know anyone who's actually had any trouble stemming from the uniqueness of the scale.</p>

<p>Our credit system is also a little funny. One course is one credit, not four, like at many schools. You can also take some classes for 1/4 or 1/2 credit (or with some Mudd 1/2 semester classes, 3/4 credits). 32 credits are required to graduate.</p>

<p>So yeah...we're a little off-base, and I don't know the official reasoning, but I've actually come to like both systems a lot (except the part about having to explain them).</p>

<p>Thanks.</p>

<p>The class credits makes much more sense than 3-6 credits for one class.</p>

<p>I find it easier, myself. It did make for some frustrating exchanges earlier in the year, though...</p>

<p>Dad: How many class hours is it?
Me: Well, um...it's 1:15-2:30 on Monday and Wednesday...
Dad: No, not when does it meet. How many hours is it?
Me: Well that's two and a half, I guess...
Dad: No...I mean how many HOURS is it? CLASS HOURS!
Me: If it's not two and a half, then I have no idea what hours are!
Dad: You know, like...on your transcript! How many!
Me: Um, credits?
Dad: Sure.
Me: One.
Dad: No, that can't be right. I mean, is it four? Or three? Or six?
Me: I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
Dad: WHERE DID I SEND YOU TO SCHOOL?</p>

<p>[Continue for a half hour. Repeat on a weekly basis throughout first semester.]</p>

<p>So not even kidding :p</p>

<p>OH MY GOODNESS.
That is EXACTLY how my conversations with my dad are!!! ARGH so frustrating! xP</p>

<p><em>Awakening old Scripps threads</em></p>

<p>I have a question about Scripps. I visited all of the Claremont schools and Scripps and Pitzer stood out as the ones I really wanted to apply to, but for different reasons. I loved the campus and the peaceful feeling of Scripps and the excellence of the social sciences, the open art policy and the apparent strength of the social life at Pitzer. </p>

<p>I know a girl who goes to Scripps who insists that Scripps is great because you can party at the other 4 C's campuses and come back to a quiet, clean campus when you're done. However, it seemed to me that a hard partier (like myself..haha) would be somewhat judged by non-partying peers at Scripps--the student body as a whole didn't seem to be into the whole party scene. Would I feel out of place as someone who likes to go out and party several days a week at Scripps?</p>

<p>I don't think that being judged by other Scrippsies would be a problem at all; they are not the study-on-a-Saturday-night types in general. The problem would be if YOU were annoyed with having to leave your home campus to party. Some people are and they end up feeling frustrated with the Scripps nightlife, but honestly it's SO close to the other colleges it's not going to matter a whole lot.</p>

<p>Thanks so much!</p>

<p>What I hear about the new freshman dorms at Pitzer is, because they are set about a large quad, you can look out your front door at 3 in the morning, see whose lights are still on, and know who is up, either studying or partying. Either way, its company in the middle of the night if you need it.</p>

<p>My daughter and I visited the Claremont Colleges in early June when everyone was gone. We toured Pitzer, Pomona and Scripps. She loved Pomona (a reach) and enjoyed Scripps and Pitzer but could not decide which one might be a better fit. As others have mentioned S and Pitzer have such different strengths. We plan to visit again in the Fall for interviews.</p>

<p>Now for her background ... she will be graduating from a top three boarding school in 2009. Her grades are OK but not tops but the experience has been not only incredible but a steep learning curve on all fronts. Her school has the highest percentage who attend the ivies for all boarding schools (30-35%). She was born and raised in Northern CA. </p>

<p>In addition, she spent her junior year in Italy (in an American school which was started by Andover .. rigorous) and came home speaking Italian and with a renewed confidence etc. She wants to study cultural anthropology and languages with film as a minor.</p>

<p>Please help me figure a few things out.</p>

<ol>
<li><p>Would Scripps core feel like a continuation of her HS humanities which combined english, history, social sciences and religion? Who is it geared for? She wants something different from hs.</p></li>
<li><p>Since there was no one on campus when we visited we could not get a sense of the "energy" ... is Scripps the quiet refuge? Does it have its own energy? My daughter loves the "up" of cities yet needs her down time. I am afraid if it is quiet all the time she will feel a bit isolated. </p></li>
<li><p>She wants to become a "global" citizen but is not an activist and is moderate politically ... would Pitzer put her off or energize her? She prefers "open" discussions ... accepting of all viewpoints. </p></li>
<li><p>Which school is a better alternative to Pomona?</p></li>
<li><p>How is the financial aid at Scripps and Pitzer if you apply ED?</p></li>
</ol>

<p>I do not think she could go wrong but her environment is important to her ... she wants a happy healthy environment with open curious and smart people and wants to avoid the grumbly/into themselves too much group.</p>

<p>Any ideas would be helpful!</p>

<p>Me again ... what about graduate schools? Which has a better reputation for placing in top graduate programs?</p>

<p>and alumni networks...?</p>

<p>When I saw the "Hard to work out..." header, I thought maybe it'd be a question about recreational athletic facilities on campus. That would've been so easy :p</p>

<p>1. Core</p>

<p>I'm unfamiliar with Andover's humanities, and I don't remember ever hearing anyone address Core from that particular perspective. It shouldn't be redundant, though, because the focus of the courses is split between specific content, which comes from a range of disciplines and changes each year, and more general overriding themes, which are more philosophical/metaphysical. If she's familiar with any of the readings, the context should still be new, and if she's familiar with an interdisciplinary approach to the humanities, the content should still keep her engaged. It can be tough for student's to wrap their minds around such a theoretical approach, so I do imagine that your daughter will be very well-prepared. If any part of Core does have a been-there-done-that feeling for her, it will probably be Core 1, because after that, students are able to choose between various sections/topics according to their own interests. If Core I feels new, she should be in the clear. </p>

<p>Who is it geared toward? Kind of...everyone. I'll speak specifically about Core I, b/c it's the only semester that all students have in common (the intended audiences of Core II and III probably depend a little bit upon the specific section topics). First, it's a good introduction to lots of things that Scripps students benefit from having a solid grasp of: interdisciplinary studies, a heavy reading load, college-level analytical writing, etc. (but it's not a "study skills" course, a writing course, or any other sort of "how to"). Second, Core I is a bonding opportunity for first-years--an excellent chance for them to get to know one another and to establish common ground--and a nice introduction to topics like anthropology, philosophy, etc. that aren't often covered in HS. It's also a good way to meet some faculty, think about who might be interesting for a GE class, etc. It definitely has both practical and intellectual components.</p>

<p>See here for Core I syllabus + sample Core II and III sections (left-hand menu): Scripps</a> Core</p>

<p>2. Campus "Energy"</p>

<p>Scripps is indeed something of a quiet refuge...I've heard it called an 'oasis' by other consortium students. In my personal opinion, it doesn't have any sort of isolated 'ghost town' feel to it, but is better described as something like 'serene.' A student who wants a bit more hustle and bustle could feel oppositely, and some students do interpret the atmosphere as 'uptight.' It would be worth spending a night on campus for your daughter to figure out whether Scripps' type of quiet suits or bores her.</p>

<p>There's energy across the campuses, but you do have to know where to find it. Because Claremont is a huge space for just 5,000 undergrads, that's true for all of the schools, though perhaps Scripps in particular. During the day (and when classes are in session), Seal Court and the Motley are great places to go for guaranteed action...just something to remember come fall! </p>

<p>3. Politics/Activism</p>

<p>Pitzer is probably a bit more left-leaning and a bit more radical than Scripps (which, for comparison, is probably on par with or a bit left of Pomona), but both of the campuses have strong liberal + activist populations. I fit the description you gave of your daughter, and I got along fine at Scripps. Having come from a very conservative HS, though, I was already an accomplished smile-and-nod-er, and probably would've been fine on most campuses. </p>

<p>4. Alternative to Pomona</p>

<p>In what sense? It depends on what your daughter is looking for...I happen to think that Claremont is largely about fit. My guess is that Pomona/Scripps have a larger cross-admit pool + a larger number of similarities than Pomona/Pitzer, so if the school she loved most was Pomona, Scripps will probably be the more appealing alternative. That said, having students on campus might make a big difference, and I don't know exactly what qualities of Pomona most appealed to her, so she could certainly go either way.</p>

<p>It's good that you'll get to go back to the campuses when classes are in session. I suspect that a fall visit will really help answer this question, because it is a subjective one.</p>

<p>5. Financial Aid ED</p>

<p>I don't know, though I believe that both schools meet 100% of demonstrated need, which is a positive. I also believe that Scripps is need-blind, while Pitzer is need-aware, but I'm not entirely sure about that. Neither school is loan-free. </p>

<p>6. Graduate Programs & Alumni Networks</p>

<p>I only graduated in 2007, but as a very-happy-in-her-post-college-plans and decently-dutiful-in-her-goodwill-towards-past-present-and-future-students alumna, I like to think Scripps is doing well on both fronts ;) </p>

<p>My experience at Scripps was that not every student continues on to the top grad program in her field, but the ones who do well and choose to aim high seem to have excellent results (and preparation, from what friends tell me). Harvard, Columbia, Oxford, CalTech, Berkeley, Michigan, UCSD, NYU, USC, UCLA, Duke...off the top of my head, all had accepted students in my grad class. A good deal fewer Scripps students than Pomona students choose to continue on after college, but from what I saw, the placement of interested, qualified students is excellent. </p>

<p>I can only speak anecdotally, and I don't have the experience to draw comparisons with Pitzer. I can't say much about alum network, simply because I never attempted to use it as a resource, so I don't know.</p>

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<p>Glad to hear that you and your daughter enjoyed your visit to Claremont. Fall will be an entirely different experience, and hopefully an even more rewarding one. I'm sure that seeing and speaking with students will help you both answer some of these questions, too!</p>

<p>THANK YOU! You touched on all of the issues that concerned me. From the start of the college search, I thought Scripps was a good spot for her ... now I know for sure. </p>

<p>She liked the quiet intensity of Pomona along with the size, physical layout, and the small discussion oriented class rooms. </p>

<p>She did not get much of a sense of Scripps on the tour so we will return!</p>

<p>Thank you again!</p>

<p>If it's Pomona's 'quiet intensity' that appealed to her (very apt description!), it does sound like Scripps might be a better fit than Pitzer. That said, sometimes 'fit' can be totally surprising, so I hope you'll still revisit all of the campuses. Spending a night or two on the campuses would also be a very good idea.</p>

<p>Best of luck! I hope you'll let us know how your next Claremont trip goes. </p>

<p>Happy to help :)</p>

<p>I just want to make a note that while I didn't apply ED, Scripps did not meet 100% of my demonstrated need, at least the federal-based. I don't know if they go with an institutionalized demonstrated need which might have been more, but my federal EFC did not match how much I got from the Scripps FA.</p>

<p>Hmmm ... thanks. So I keep getting the message that if $$s are an issue, it is not wise to apply ED anywhere ... even if you do have a favorite. Simply the ball is in the colleges court and a student is at the mercy of the interpretation of need ... no matter what is said in the brochures. </p>

<p>Hmmm ...</p>

<p>Pitzer is need-blind.</p>

<p>Strange synergy - I'm from Andover (the town not the school) and my d., is heading to Scripps this fall. While she attended the public HS, many of her friends went Andover, and one of her best friends attended the Italian program you mentioned. (Probably 1 year ahead of you.)</p>

<p>My sense is that Scripps will give you a vibe that is comfortable - highly academic, a curriculum that asks you to take on a lot of different topic to make you a "well rounded person", but a lot of flexiblity. If any of this sounds familiar, don't be surprised - Scripps is a classic liberal arts college, and kind of the West Coast equivalent of a Mount Holyoke/Smith/Amherst school.</p>

<p>PM if you want to talk.</p>

<p>Thank you ... I am eager to get her back on campus at Scripps! It would be so nice to have her back in CA as well.</p>

<p>This is for MQD, my d was a leader in sports/ student gov. etc in her top -tier boarding school with great standardized test scores etc but not Harvard material. College search was a bit difficult because she wanted to move beyond East Coast boarding / prep experience even though she loved every minute of her four years. So, Scripps made it possible for us to afford it and she fell in love with it. She is strong academically and it showed in her class work. She is excelling but is challenged. Her roommates were very talented, bright women. Impressive. My d has not been disappointed. Feel free to pm me if you other questions for me or my d. She can't wait to get back.</p>

<p>Even if you don't apply ED, make sure you get all your materials in early anyways! Scripps has an awesome merit based scholarship opportunity that may be right up your daughter's alley. The deadline for it is in November, however, and many qualified students miss out because they didn't have everything together in time, or they simply didn't know. I have fantastic financial aid WITHOUT ANY LOANS (i think that warrants caps, right?). Definitely check the "apply for scholarships" box on the application.</p>