<p>My S sent his HS transcript and SAT scores to a D3 coach. The coach replied that everything looked great, and that he should go ahead and apply. The implication being that he wold be accepted if he applies. My question is this: if he applies RD, when does he get an acceptance letter - sometime this fall, or next April 1, when the RD acceptance letters go out?</p>
<p>Hello,
all the schools are different.there is no one answer
some schools have rolling admissions and accept students as they are reviewed others
are not until after the new year
my son applied ED so he was informed early,my daughter appled to multiple schools
and had most aceptances before xmas but one school does not send out until early spring
check with the school to save your self some stress
good luck</p>
<p>From your answer above, I cannot tell if the acceptance letters for recruited athletes are treated differently than the general RD population.</p>
<p>Here is a thread from 2011:</p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-admissions/1089043-class-2015-admission-notification-dates-17.html?highlight=college+acceptance+letters+dates[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-admissions/1089043-class-2015-admission-notification-dates-17.html?highlight=college+acceptance+letters+dates</a></p>
<p>…typically for recruited D III athletes, the coach is going to tell you well before hand if you’ll be admitted. They want to get that taken care of with their admission office so they don’t waste time in recruiting kids who aren’t admitted. What is more typical is having to wait a little longer to get the financial aid package.</p>
<p>I’m not certain I agree that his acceptance is implied in the situation you describe. I would clarify this with the coach and if this school is choice 1, I would ask for his application to be supported early decision.</p>
<p>I agree with alloutivy. You may want to have this clariified with the coach. From what you’ve described, I think the coach was implying that he should apply ED. This is very typical for D3 and D1 Ivy. They want to know you are committed & accepted since their is no athletic scholarship $$ in play. </p>
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<p>If your son applies RD then he would hear back April 1 and possibly lose any coaches support that may be needed through Admission. So, if this is a stretch school where the coaches help is needed, you may want to give this some thought. If your son applies RD, then he may be on his own and the coach may think of him as a walk-on. Possibly the coach is going to recruit other athletes that he supports through ED Admissions. Again, this is best clarified with the coach.</p>
<p>The problem with applying ED is that fin aid is a crapshoot. This is well documented on other CC forums. If he loses the coaches support, then so be it. I don’t think he will, but I guess it could happen. He is a very good student with high SATs. He has lots of interest from many schools, most of which he would get in RD anyway, without coach support. I am not going to have him apply ED someplace and then find out we have a huge tuition bill that I don’t want to pay. I want to be able to compare FA offers, and if necessary, use them as leverage to “negotiate” with schools. If one offer winds up being significantly better, then that could influence where he winds up.</p>
<p>But back to my original question, when we go the RD route, understanding that he may lose some support, do athletes get decisions before the 4/1 deadline for all the regular RD students? I can’t believe that coaches fill up all their recruit rosters exclusively through ED, or am I missing something?</p>
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<p>The school’s financial aid offer either accompanies the ED acceptance, or is provided shortly thereafter, and if the financial aid offer is not acceptable to you the school will allow you out of your ED commitment. Yes, with ED you lose the ability to shop one school against the others, but the ability to do that may be more theoretical than practical. Yoou may not have the time to do that during the four weeks between RD offers and acceptance.
If a coach really wants your son, he will ask him to commit by applying ED. If your son refuses, the coach may move on to another athlete.
As for whether the team fills up ED - what sport does your son play? If it’s a sport that only recruits a few athletes each year, I would worry that the team could fill up ED.</p>
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<p>FA is a crapshoot when people don’t plan or don’t understand how it works. Your RD strategy is one way to do it. </p>
<p>To answer your orginal question again…No. He’ll get the official decision along with the other RD students on 4/1. </p>
<p>If your concern is FA, then don’t apply ED unless you have your FA package. We got our FA package(s) estimates done before we considered applying ED to a few schools including D1s, Ivys and D3s…of course we only appiied to one. It wasn’t a big deal, and the estmates were coordinated with the pre-read. Both Ivys were just about the same FA.</p>
<p>I was on several selective LAC threads this spring, and there were kids who received earlier acceptance letters - some were athletes, but not all. They weren’t very early - maybe 3 weeks ahead of April 1.</p>
<p>My D is in the same position - several coaches have inquired if she would consider ED, but she hasn’t even finished visiting schools on her list. I don’t think she will be able to settle on a school by Nov 1. The coaches want you to do ED so they know who is coming in. One coach told her she would be accepted ED, but still had a good shot at getting in RD, and she didn’t want to lose her as a recruit by pressuring her to apply ED if she wasn’t ready. I really liked that coach!</p>
<p>@myluckydog - The sport is tennis. Some of the schools he is looking at could conceivably fill numerous slots via ED, although I do not believe there are hard limits on tennis recruits. If a tennis coach can add a desired recruit, he will generally do it. Also, I follow a recruiting website in our sport and you can see when kids commit. There are definately a fair amount that commit via ED, but many also come later via RD.</p>
<p>In our case, I think RD is definately the way to go because he is up for some full merit scholarships at some schools that don’t award until March, and I am not sure he can visit all the schools by Nov 1. I understand the risk of ED/RD, but he is looking at many schools that want him. I can’t believe they will all throw him under the bus if he goes RD, although I will certainly listen to what the coaches have to say about this during further discussions.</p>
<p>Also, can someone tell me how to quote replies – I can’t figure it out.</p>
<p>DS did D3 through RD. In mid March, when he called the coach of the school, the coach called admissions and told him he was accepted. This was couple of weeks before the acceptances were released. We probably could have found out even earlier. However, the FA won’t come out early so you will have to wait for those regardless.</p>
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<p>Remember as the NESCAC website states explicitly-- no offer from a coach is binding nor is it official–only the admissions office can admit a student. So while a coach can tell you if the pre-read went well and if he will be using a slot, nothing is a done deal until the official email from Admissions. Every once in a while there is a slip-up. To minimize this, ask your guidance counsellor to call admissions --if he or she has any relationship with that office–and find out if everything you have been told by the coach is borne out by admissions–at least informally–with your counsellor.</p>
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<p>I agree that your son will most lilkely not be shutout by the coach if he applies RD vs ED. Typical college tennis team was 12 players when I played 30 years ago. I don’t think that has changed much. Assume coach is going to recruit 4-6 freshmen players per year depending on the class distribution. If your son is a really good, then possibly he can dictate the athletic recruiting terms - which is what I think you are trying to do. You understand the risk, and I can’t blame you for trying if you have the leverage.</p>
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<p>We looked at some full D1 merit scholarships a few years ago. They explicitly required ED application and acceptance in order to get the big $$ merit scholarships. You may want to double check the terms of the award.</p>
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<p>Great suggestion etondad.</p>
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How did you get FA package estimates? Are you talking about just using the school’s net price calculator? Or did you actually got something from the school?
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<p>Ask the coach about a FA pre-read. They should be able to provide you with the documents to fill out. Most likely they will want to know if the school’s FA package is doable for you before they get too attached to your athlete. Especially true if this is an Ivy with no merit/athletic aid. If you are looking at multiple Ivy’s you can not only compare packages but use them against each other.</p>
<p>^^^^Exactly. Sorry, I wasn’t able to respond directly as Delta wanted to keep me on planes yesterday. c’smom has got it. thanks.</p>
<p>Thanks C’smom and fenwaysouth. We are not applying for Ivy, but D3 with no athletic package. We have one D3 coach told my D that based on her academic record, she could get $xx. He said that if she comes up to visit, he will take her to admission and they can tell her what else she can get. He also said that during the visit, if we sign a few papers for formality, then basically she would be in. i’m a little skeptical about that. Don’t we all have to fill in the Common App/essay and do the whole slew of FA paperwork? He made it sound as if it is a piece of cake.</p>
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<p>I’m also skeptical. I think the coach is oversimplifying the situation, but I like the idea of him taking you to Admissions/FA office to see what else you can get. Hopefully, he and the school can deliver Good luck.</p>