Dance!

<p>hmm..that's kind of scary. Did anyone pick up on it? I wonder how picky they are with the MT auditioners on the difficult dance audition...</p>

<p>any idea?:)</p>

<p>Well the people who were tehre for dance got it fine, but the people who were teaching the dance told us to not really worry about it cause it was only for placement.</p>

<p>ohh ok. I wasn't aware it was just for placement. Good to hear. Nice people at PP? Did you get accepted?</p>

<p>the audition went so fast that I really couldnt decide how i felt about the faculty. And yes I did get accepted</p>

<p>well, congrats on that. i'm going to bed. peace out</p>

<p>anyone heard anything about the CCM MT dance audition?</p>

<p>"I would piroutte far away from that studio " I love that comment freelance!</p>

<p>Anyway she is not going into MT I dont think, just enjoys doing musicals at school - frankly I dont know what her major would be since she wants to be a pop singer. </p>

<p>BUT I think the dance would be great for her stage presence and I found someone who will give her private dance lessons and maybe she can get a kickstart that way and add in some other dance like hip hop when we find it.</p>

<p>DizzyDani88,
My daughter participated in "Break the Floor" - Gil Stroming's NYC tap intensive a couple of years ago and it was a wonderful experience. Mike Minery's program is called "Slide" and the ending performance is done with a live jazz band. Gil's tap is more "funky" ala tapdogs while I'd say Mike's is more classical tap. You just have to decide what you want. E-mail me if you want any additional info.</p>

<p>Dance auditions:
It's interesting how each school is different. My D started auditioning for BFA MT programs in late November and finished in March. At her next to the last audition (FSU) she got a call back for the dance portion (14 out ot 37) and then sang and acted for a room full of professors and current students. As we drove away she said, "Now that was a real audition". As a dancer she finally felt challenged and she appreciated the larger audience for the other portion.<br>
Her NYU/Tisch audition was regional so she didn't even get to dance for them and we were worried she didn't have a chance, but she got in to CAP 21 anyway...her resume is full of ballet, tap, modern and a little jazz. Elon had her prepare her own dance number...an odd way of doing it, but she got in there, too. The disappointing audition all around was Emerson...the dance portion was simple, not hard to learn and not a real indicator of what someone could do. (ALso after being told to bring performing arts recommendation letters to the audition, the prof said "Oh, we don't even read those" !) The admissions officer along for the trip took them later, but the miscommunication was odd.
She said the CCM dance audition (regional) was challenging and well run.
At her Illinois Wesleyan audition there were only 7 students (early in the season) but she thought the combinations were interesting.<br>
The good auditions had ballet and jazz portions. She took her tap shoes into Elon and asked to show them what she could do and they let her go at it after her prepared lyric modern dance.
Kids have gotten into MT programs without extensive dance training or experience, but you have to be willing to move, hustle and try. If you've had NO DANCE TRAINING, start taking classes immediately...we prefer ballet as the basic and continuous mode of study so that you can learn about your body and its possibilities.
Good luck to those starting out!
Anybody know of good summer tap sessions down South?</p>

<p>I can speak to the OCU dance audition as they have a very strong dance program,even in their MT program. Their "audition" is not required and is just for "leveling" but my d said they did ballet, jazz, and tap and that while the ballet was okay and she kept up with the jazz, the tap was difficult if you have had limited dance experiences. Also, the dance professors taught the combinations and my d said they went VERY fast and expected the dancers to keep up. OCU has several classes of dance for those who do not level and then 8 (?) levels of classes that MT students take along with dance majors. I was speaking with a current MT student there who told me that once you "level" you even have to weigh in just like the dance majors.</p>

<p>My d also auditioned at Emerson and felt that the dance audition was extremely easy and that everyone in her group could do the combination very well. She was not sure how their audition would show them anything about dance abilities.</p>

<p>My d auditioned at Elon, but did not choose to do a dance audition (it's optional and has to be a 1-minute (?) choreographed routine that you have already prepared.) One of her friends, who attends Elon MT told her though that they were really focusing on choosing the strong dancers this year for their MT selections (wish we had known prior to audition).</p>

<p>Hope this helps.</p>

<p>Lexasmom</p>

<p>SouthernVoice...many congrats to your daughter on her achievements and in her great college choices. I would echo a bunch of what you posted about dance auditions. </p>

<p>From my recollection at my D's auditions, she also said that the Emerson dance audition was unbelievably easy and could not fathom how it would show dance skills, other than if you could move at all basically. One could not show their level of dance at that audition. Anyone could do it even if they had never taken a dance class in their life. All the other kids she knows had the same feedback on that aspect. </p>

<p>UMichigan's dance audition was better, and also included the barre, but it was not overly challenging. The schools where I think she felt the dance audition was more like you would expect if discerning dance skills were at Syracuse, Penn State, NYU/Tisch, and CMU. Syracuse's definitely had the challenge factor and if one had dance training, it would be able to be shown. Penn State included both ballet and jazz and had current students observing like you mentioned at FSU. CMU had current students demonstrating and they were excellent dancers themselves. Again, a student with dance background could have an opportunity to show their skill level. At NYU, the situation was a bit different. They do not include dance as part of the regular audition for CAP (which does befuddle me, though thankfully CAP has dance placement once you get there so not everyone is in the same level of class in each discipline). But Tisch/Cap does offer an optional dance audition in both the ED and RD rounds (if in NYC on campus). My daughter opted to attend on one of those audition dates because she is a dancer. This was a challenging dance audition, more than some others (though I am sure your D could do it) but what added to the challenge was that an experienced dancer would not stand out in the same way as at the other college auditions where there are non-dancers in the audition group, or various levels of abilities, but in the case at NYU, only experienced dancers were allowed to attend the dance audition so everyone had skill (though it varied of course). </p>

<p>I am not sure why EVERY BFA in MT does not include dance at the audition.....in my D's case, Boston Conservatory and Ithaca did not and NYU/CAP did not have everyone do it. My thinking is that while some mght say dance is less important compared to voice and acting, it is still a musical theater audition and dance is part of the program (I guess they figure they can teach ya once you get there?) and since it is SO selective to even get into these programs and they have the pick of so many talented kids (MORE than they can give offers to), why not include dance at the auditions and go with kids who can sing, act, and dance since there are already too many qualified kids anyway? I would have thought at the very least, they would want to see how a kid can move with their body, even if they did not have the dance technique yet. And as the NYU dance faculty/auditor said, it also allows them to just see your stage presence and energy, etc. I would think they would all include this. I know that at BOCO, they have dance placement once you get there so that helps for an experienced dancer. But at Ithaca, everyone takes the same level of dance class and so that is something for an experienced dancer to take into account. At the schools that have no dance in the dance audition, of course they can consult your resume and discern your dance background and so I am sure it would count if you had so called "triple threat" skills. But I also can think of kids accepted to schools like BOCO who do not dance at all (which might explain how kids we know got accepted there but were closed out at schools where there was a dance audition included). I would encourage non-dancers to apply to schools like Ithaca, BOCO and NYU because you don't have to dance at the auditions. And I'll add Emerson in there because you really don't have to be able to dance at all to do their dance audition. </p>

<p>I agree with your D that the good dance auditions included both ballet AND jazz. None of my D's auditions included tap. UM had said you could bring your tap shoes and that might be optional but that was not the case when actually at the audition. By the way, my D is a tap dancer too, sounds similar to your D actually in the dance area. </p>

<p>Let us know where your D decides to matriculate because perhaps some of the kids, including mine, will end up in the same place and we can all stay in touch! </p>

<p>Oh, and by the way, last year my D observed a ballet and a jazz class at CAP21 (has a friend who was in them and that friend got permission for my D to visit). They are done completely by placement so assure your D that even though she did not do a dance audition, she will have an opportunity to be appropriately placed, should she decide to matriculate at Tisch. </p>

<p>Susan</p>

<p>soozievt:
Thanks for the info on NYU. We've looked at it the least but are heading up there this weekend for the Saturday in the Square gathering. Is your D the one who got the incredibel NYU scholarship I've been reading about? WOW. </p>

<p>FSU's school of dance has major and non-major classes and the MT students no longer take classes with the majors, although I read a thread from someone whose D was getting to take some with special permission. Elon is not like that (I don't think...I start getting confused when trying to remember it all!). Plus, they have the fabulous tap teacher, Gene Medler, who my D danced with in one class while observing.</p>

<p>we'll be giving it another couple of weeks...!
southernvoice</p>

<p>SouthernVoice, my daughter did get into Cap21. She also has the invite to this weekend for Saturday in the Square, and the luncheon for University Scholars that follows that. She would really like to go to both these events. I don't know that YOU know this if you are a new poster, but three weeks ago she was in a very serious car accident and is recovering and will have a complete recovery and will be as good as new in time for college. However, she just got off bed rest a couple days ago and is not yet back at school. She can only stand on one foot and is still recovering overall. We will be seeing if she can possibly make it to NYC this weekend and we'd drive her door to door to the events. So, we may be meeting you. She will be the one on crutches. So, look for us (hoping it works out for her to make the trip).
Susan
PS, yes, to answer your question, she also got something called a Trustee Scholarship for $20,000 which makes the tuition at NYU easier to swallow. I had no idea there was anything like this there so was taken back by this scholarship after reading that NYU does not give out much merit aid. I must say that all the schools were pretty great on the merit award scholarships that I never really knew about beforehand.</p>

<p>Congrats to your daughter Sooziet on her recovery and accomplishments!</p>

<p>LoL!
AT my NYU audition, my two male friends and I met up with a friend of a friend and she entertained us with tales of standing next to ballerinas with extensions to their ears as her leg shook at 90 degrees. (She exaggerated, but needless to say, I heard many scary PPU dance audition stories)</p>

<p>do you mean Point Park? I'm confused..sorry..:)</p>

<p>Hey all ..just wanted to let you know that D. was in her Jazz dance recital tonight and wow! I mean she was so relaxed and comfortable and looked great.
It was interesting because we watched about 30 different dance classes with kids who have lots of dance experience yet many of them looked uncomfortable on stage. Because of her stage experience she was really having fun and looked natural with the dancing.
As I mentioned earlier..she is very comfy on stage but I felt she could use a little extra polish with movement on stage ..as in selling the song and mic technique and have found some wonderful help for that also!</p>