<p>yes, @awcntdb, people should read the article and make up their own minds. It’s long on opinion and short on the law (talk about non-existent!). I assume the author is capable of better work, although, as a Berkeley grad (Boalt '74), my view of Stanford is not unbiased. Regards. </p>
<p>Oops. Make that (Reed '74 Boalt '77). </p>
<p>Have to say that the current atmosphere at Dartmouth had an impact on choosing Stanford over them…at least for me.</p>
<p>Heck, I’d probably choose Stanford over Dartmouth any year … but I’m California-centric.</p>
<p>^^ I am interested in seeing how it pans out over time. It is clear lawyers are disagreeing on this. Again, thank you for your thoughts on the issue. It is good to read the different views on the issue. </p>
<p>^^ Thanks. I do need to make one point. On April 19, you posted: “I still agree with you Dartmouth has the right to do what it wants, but that does not mean it holds up to the smell test to being fair to the accused, as that article points out very methodically.” I don’t believe I ever said that Dartmouth had the right to do whatever it wanted; I certainly did not intend to convey that meaning. My position is that the standard for discipline is much lower than the criminal case. That does not mean that there are no standards. There are: <a href=“Home | Dartmouth Student Affairs”>Home | Dartmouth Student Affairs; Regards. </p>
<p>I don’t know what all these means ultimately for Dartmouth but I know at least 7 of my friends / acquaintances who got admitted at Dartmouth this year are not accepting the offer .only for this reason. </p>
<p>Their loss; someone else’s gain. The folks on the wait list thread are probably jumping for joy. </p>
<p>There was lengthy discussion in the CC Parents Forum when a document regarding Title IX compliance in matters of sexual assault was issued several years ago. I suggest that anyone who is interested search for it. At the time, many people were concerned about the standard of apparently willing participants being classified as “assault,” and so forth. (Personally, I have grown less and less concerned about the possibility of false accusation, since it is clear that real assaults go unreported in very large numbers while possibly false accusations are very rare. Not that that matters if the falsely accused is you or your kid, of course.)</p>
<p>You might want to check this out (Not normally a serious source, but this is actually good):</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.ivygateblog.com/2014/04/ivies-under-attack-for-sexual-assault-policies/#more-23033”>http://www.ivygateblog.com/2014/04/ivies-under-attack-for-sexual-assault-policies/#more-23033</a></p>
<p>This is one person’s report of the campus reaction to the acquittal:</p>
<p><a href=“What the Dartmouth Rape Acquittal Really Teaches Us | HuffPost College”>HuffPost - Breaking News, U.S. and World News | HuffPost;
<p>I really think of Dartmouth more as a Williams or Amherst than Ivy league. I think they do too, but can’t afford to lose the Ivy title as that name brand is ever so valuable. W and A got rid of the Greek scene and it has made a difference. That is what D should do. It would be one big strike that would do a lot in this regard. Yes, Greek life can be fun and great and beneficial, but IMO it hurts more than helps. </p>
<p>You know after reading this blog for a while, and thinking about it, I think Dartmouth would be better off without a Greek system. Actually, I kind of thought the Greek system was an anachronism 35 years go when I was in college. I still don’t agree with the freedom budget people, either their platform or their tactics.</p>
<p>A follow-up opinion column from the Washington Post starts with this observation:</p>
<p>"If you are the proud parent of a Dartmouth student, you should send a thank-you note to President Philip Hanlon. Actually, if you are the proud parent of a college student anywhere, or one nearing college age, you should also drop Hanlon a line.
“Because while the stemwinder of a speech that Hanlon delivered Wednesday night was aimed at what he described as “extreme behavior” at Dartmouth, Hanlon’s admonitions could apply to colleges and college students anywhere.”</p>
<p>Link to full article here:
<a href=“http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ruth-marcus-dartmouth-president-could-give-a-lesson-on-campus-behavior/2014/04/18/95f94d5e-c722-11e3-9f37-7ce307c56815_story.html”>http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ruth-marcus-dartmouth-president-could-give-a-lesson-on-campus-behavior/2014/04/18/95f94d5e-c722-11e3-9f37-7ce307c56815_story.html</a></p>
<p>As the parent of a female D alum, like blue, I try to stay out of these frays.</p>
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<p>Williams and Amherst getting rid of the greek system did not necessarily make things better. The only thing that happened is that incidents that happened on campus were not attributed to the greek system</p>
<p>At Amherst:</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/11/16/students-file-federal-complaint-against-amherst-college-alleging-mishandling-sexual-assaults/cxRn6t3sWaGKOVBK3hbg5N/story.html”>http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/11/16/students-file-federal-complaint-against-amherst-college-alleging-mishandling-sexual-assaults/cxRn6t3sWaGKOVBK3hbg5N/story.html</a></p>
<p><a href=“http://amherststudent.amherst.edu/?q=article/2012/10/17/account-sexual-assault-amherst-college”>http://amherststudent.amherst.edu/?q=article/2012/10/17/account-sexual-assault-amherst-college</a></p>
<p>First pres. Hanlon deserves credit for addressing these problems. These issues are NOT limited to Dartmouth and they are NOT limited to Greek organizations. Too many U’s give a 5 minute freshman orientation on alcohol and sexual assault and believe they have met their duty to “educate students” on these issues.
Having said that Dartmouth does have a reputation for this behavior and if it becomes a “branding” to the university it will be a big, big problem. If ANY parents think for a minute they don’t want to send their daughter to Dartmouth because of these issues then it’s a problem. Other universities will be watching to see what happens at Dartmouth.</p>
<p>Could someone bring to light the Freedom Budget, my last post came off a bit harsh/judgemental I am honestly trying to figure out whats going on and what changes are being made, if any?</p>