Dartmouth or Brown for Bush Supporter

<p>Brown has a pretty active set of religious groups some of which tend toward the conservative or more conservative. I can't say enough good things about Brown myself for academics or location overall. Although, Dartmouth has a lot to recommend it as well I really think if you want to be the captain of your own ship Brown is the only place for you and everyday I become more convinced of that the independent concentrations people do are really amazing.</p>

<p>Honestly though, being conservative is totally cool (although I'm liberal) but Bush? Seriously he's not even a conservative!</p>

<p>Whoops, sorry.</p>

<p>anyone else? I'm gonna have to make a tough decision</p>

<p>Dude why don't you worry about this when you may get in?</p>

<p>since bush's approval rating is hovering around thirty percent (at least last time it was in the news) i think you're going to have a hard time finding a whole lot of company anywhere......</p>

<p>brown's rep as a pervasively liberal environment unjustly shadows the reality that brown has a student body that is more accepting, genuinely curious, and very much involved in whatever activities they are pursuing. you could be "straight" and the queer alliance will welcome you. the ethnic organizations have members who are not from their own countries. politically, brown is overwhelmingly democratic. however, intectual diversity is gaining ground so conservatives can openly challenge the status quo.....just be true to yourself. do not compromise your beliefs for the sake of "fitting in". IMO, it is brown's way of encouraging its students on how to proceed in their college life and beyond.</p>

<p>Brown was one of the very few universities to be open enough to pick up the gauntlet thrown down by arch-conservative David Horowitz and invite him to a debate on reparations. </p>

<p>Horowitz is an interesting character, by the way. Kind of the ultimate example of "a conservative is a liberal that got mugged." He grew up in a communist familty wanting to be the American Karl Marx for the left but ended up adopting a similar roll for the right.</p>

<p>How about libertarians (note small l)? Are they more accepted than conservatives? Objectivists? Or is anything right of center on the political spectrum shot down?</p>

<p>I believe there are a lot of libertarians in Ivies.
I have a notion: the reason so many kids that are at ivies are liberal is because liberals tend to complain/object/protest/rally (not that it isn't a good cause...;)) when they disagree. conservatives, on the other hand, usually don't have to because they are currently getting what they want. If a dem. wins in '08, i belive that between 08 and 12, a shift will occur in the student population and will shift towards a more conservative student body b/c conservative kids will be organizing support for, say, unborn baby rights, state's rights, law enforcement power, etc. </p>

<p>btw, yes i am conservative, but! I do NOT like bush.. i think he was better tahn kerry, but still a bad president, and I think a lot of conservatives are realizing how unintelligent bush is, because a lot of congressional republicans are splitting sides.
I hope Frist runs in 08.</p>

<p>"not quite true...prestige is relative and it depends on the circles you are in but brown, columbia, and dartmouth are still widely considered to be more more prestigious than penn and cornell. penn has made a recent climb in USNWR to its credit, but it was considered the bottom ivy league for decades and old perceptions die hard."</p>

<p>dcircle....Brown didn't have a very good reputation among the Ivies a few decades ago...whereas Upenn and Cornell did...No!?</p>

<p>not true. reputations didn't matter much until USNWR, and before then (due to elitism alone) the "new england" ivies carried the most prestige (harvard, yale, brown, and dartmouth). during this time, even princeton--despite its august reputation from the einstein era, was looked down upon as a place for southern debutantes. the 60's-80's were a dark time of financial trouble for columbia, and penn & cornell (though great schools) weren't considered "elite". mind you, "a few decades ago" the ivy league didn't even exist
through the 80's and 90's penn was widely considered the easiest ivy to get into, the poorest, and the least reputable (penn still has the smallest endowment per student in the ivy league). cornell has always suffered from a high acceptance rate, and though respected for both quality and rigor, has always taken a hit on prestige as a result. penn has risen in the rankings meteorically very recently, and those out in the "real world" don't really follow USNWR college rankings on a year-to-year basis. so old perceptions die hard</p>

<p>Actually Brown didn't invite Horowitz....the college republicans did. There was nothing "Brown" about Horowitz coming back.</p>