Dec 2011 SAT 1 Math Question (Nutrition Label Problem)

<p>If Chinaboys is right, and colleges do see that the SAT i took dropped a question in the math section and I got an 800, how would they know if it’s a legit 800?</p>

<p>because the curve is still preset</p>

<p>for ur case, if u got the question right, and u still had enough raw points for an 800 by getting other problems right, then u’d be fine. legit 800. no change.</p>

<p>The lack of common sense exhibited by those of you who are complaining may end up costing us. PM me the result china, I need to know whether colleges will look disparagingly on this test date or not.</p>

<p>costing us?</p>

<p>dont even joke around. its still gonna be an whatever sat math, regardless that shows u have the ability to still solve algebra problems, geometry problems, logic problems, etc.</p>

<p>a single problem about reading food labels being disregarded is not going to hurt you in any way.</p>

<p>try putting urself into other’s shoes for a change…</p>

<p>@tjhsstKid 21</p>

<p>Sorry, this is bad luck. An 800 sadly won’t be “legit” since you answered 53/53 correct rather than others who answered 54/54. I again feel sorry for those that would have easily scored perfect on this test but now might have to retest if this question drops.</p>

<p>i know alot of college admissions people personally, and they told me the sat CR from last yr that had a disregarded question was still viewed as a legitimate sat score nevertheless.</p>

<p>i for one rather get the points back, because i dont want to retake because of a dumb label. i knew the math on that test. thats all i gotta be assured of.</p>

<p>Exactly. We can only hope CB is intransigent and sticks to the question. I’d say there is a very good chance they will, resulting in this test being “legit”, but there is the small possibility that they will drop it and skew the results for everybody. </p>

<p>Colleges will look more harshly upon scores and some of our admissions will be revoked.</p>

<p>@kid everybody knows the math, they test the application and REASONING hence sat reasoning test</p>

<p>grojo, its supposed to test whether we can apply the knowledge of mathematics.</p>

<p>not how you judge calories and food labels.</p>

<p>theres nothing wrong with jkim’s argument whatsoever. its actually almost flawless.</p>

<p>i sure for one hope the curve is lenient. maybe even without the question drop, hopefully a -1 will still result in an 800 ;)</p>

<p>@those who want to nullify</p>

<p>I guess I’m going to make a case against CB for another question “that seemed ambiguous” and not clear. If they wanted to, they could make everyone question straightforward, but they would be getting rid of the whole point of the SAT. It’s not straightforward, the math HAS NEVER BEEN, the world problems have NEVER BEEN, so stop complaining.</p>

<p>Okay this is ridiculous… Colleges will NOT look at your SAT differently if the question gets eliminated. If the question is indeed faulty it is the Collegeboards fault… Not ours.</p>

<p>It’s not my fault I was born with white skin either, yet colleges look at that negatively. </p>

<p>-_-</p>

<p>the question was on the math section. math is logic and reasoning. math has almost always been straightforward. If this was on the critical reading, i wouldnt be complaining since the section can be subjective, and it would involve inference. </p>

<p>the purpose of the math section is to assess mathematical knowledge not the reading of food labels.</p>

<p>For example, i calculated both ways
35/80 and 35/(80+35)
this shows the fact that i am able to do the percentage calculations, whether the calories from fat are included in the total calories or not.</p>

<p>what i am mad about is that the fact that an ambiguous food label which i didnt know how to comprehend, caused me to pick the incorrect calculation and it may cost me 20~40 points that i shouldnt be losing.</p>

<p>im not sure about you, but if i see something wrong, i tackle it head on, and try to fix it.
It may end up being futile, but avoiding every problem isnt going to fix anything either.</p>

<p>dont say that we are complaining. who r we to talk about complaints as CCers? we complain about 2390s, 18 APs, and a 4.45 gpa. u know deep down, 1) uare trying to block this from going through because u are afraid it will hurt your score, and 2) u know the question was absolutely garbage and unfair. </p>

<p>i bet for 95% of the people on CC who got this problem right, if they are in the same position as Jkim, mice, or myself, they would be pushing to get this removed.</p>

<p>There was absolutely nothing ambiguous about this question. As I said in the ether thread if the question was about a parking let full of cars and it said
Cars - 45 and
Cars from Germany - 15
You wouldn’t add them together to get the total. The only difference here was it said
Calories - 85 (or whatever the number was)
Calories from fat - 35(or whatever the number was)</p>

<p>that situation is different. That gives the condition that the parking lot is FULL. thus u know that car total is already the total.</p>

<p>the food label gave nothing of the sort.</p>

<p>I didn’t literally mean the parking lot is full. Its just like saying the food is full of calories and it is completely irrelevant to the question. If you have the makeup of the parking lot (or the makeup of the of the food) and it says Cars (or calories) and gives you the amount and then tells you a specific type of car (or calorie) you don’t add them together.</p>

<p>How about another scenario: you have the demographics a school and it says:
Students - 1000
and then
Students from single parent families (or whatever) - 80
You wouldn’t say that there are 1080 students.</p>

<p>I got this question correct, but I intend to canceling the test since I didn’t do so well on other subjects. I personally don’t think this problem should be canceled. I don’t understand how this can be confusing. Anyway, good luck on getting this problem nullified.</p>

<p>@almost there- Please email CB with your position. Both sides need to be adequately represented. They missed a legitimate problem and are doing whatever they can to change it, rather than accepting the mistake. </p>

<p>EMAIL CB ABOUT IT.</p>

<p>Although I got the question right because I’m an American, I agree that the wording of the problem was a bit tricky. If you were a foreigner, you might have misunderstood the question but if you are an American I really don’t see how you could have gotten it wrong. </p>

<p>The question was a direct application. Look at a box of cereal or something. It was a mirror image of the nutrition facts label. In real life, the box doesn’t say total calories, it just says calories. Because it was an application problem, the test makers didn’t change anything.</p>

<p>The question should have said “total calories” instead, but I’m sure that most people who took the test, who were American, got the question correct.</p>

<p>@studyharderbro
Wow bro, seems like your definition of “American” seems pretty limited. You’re implying “Americans” are people who were born in this country, or simply those who are Caucasian? Being an “American” doesn’t mean you’re guaranteed to understand this question, see post by jkim94. Seems ignorant of you to use American in such a broad context.</p>