December 2009 SAT Results Thread

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<p>I think it is going to be 5 AM EST just like Dec. 22. But you aren’t actually going to stay up are you? I mean you already know your score…</p>

<p>^ haha I will most definitely not stay up, and most likely not wake up at 5 am either for the reasons you stated. However, I am one of the few individuals whose Writing Section breakdown did not appear on the original date, telling me to check back on the 29th. I’ve been quite curious to know my essay score and read my essay again because I’ve pretty much forgotten what I wrote about. oh and I also want to know if the number of CR questions I missed is the same as what I predicted.</p>

<p>So just curiosity lol, nothing major. Thanks for the answer.</p>

<p>You got a 740 in reading right? I think I remember you posting that because thats what I got too lol. I’m guessing that for this test 740=-6 raw score (it might be -5 raw but I really doubt it). Now that I think of it, I left 1 question blank and got another wrong. But thats because I didn’t go with my gut on those questions. If I did, I would have gotten 770-800…ugh. I guess theres always January lol.</p>

<p>Still waiting for my score (delayed). I really hope it comes out tomorrow (actually today for me, but when I called up CB they told me not to count on it.</p>

<p>Well, I can begin my own deluded countdown from here!
7 hours, 47 minutes!</p>

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<p>All that says about you is that you lie and cheat your way into college. And regardless of what colleges think, your peers around you now (and in the future, in the workplace) will also look down on you because of that.</p>

<p>Please grow up.</p>

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<p>Score Choice is a legitimate option offered by the College Board and accepted by universities. Retaking a test and taking advantage of Score Choice is not dishonest, a vehicle for cheating, or something that should be looked down upon. I don’t know where your comments are coming from.</p>

<p>Mifune is not cheating any system unless he disregards score choice for schools that explicitly state they want all your scores (e.g. Stanford).</p>

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<p>No, I am applying to Yale and Stanford and I honored their policy regardless of how anal I believe such policies may be. However, if my scores were less than 2300, which in such a case would not be a proper reflection of my academic abilities, I would not have hesitated to withhold the scores. Universities use admitted students’ best section scores across all test dates in their published academic profiles to best maintain/increase their rankings anyways. To use the * averaged * composite across all dates would severely negatively reflect the university’s academic statistics. Thus, they should measure students through this method since this is the procedure that they use to measure their own selectivity.</p>

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<p>For Harvard and Princeton, however, I did only submit my latest score since it best reflects the level at which I currently perform.</p>

<p>I fully agree with silverturtle (as I basically always do) that utilizing Score Choice is not a method in which to cheat but to best represent one’s own academic aptitude. If this is not portrayed through previous scores (i.e. taking the SAT for “fun” in 9th grade) and does not indicate current capacities, what point is there in submitting previous scores? This is the fundamental flaw behind policies that demand the submission of every score. </p>

<p>Although my previous two scores were by no means poor and I did not have any qualms providing these, if they were significantly lower I believe that it is to your best benefit to withhold these choices. Do you honestly believe that a student need be punished or deprived of his or her rightful opportunity for falling ill on the day of a test or undergoing some equivalent infirmity that affects mental performance? Thus, I believe that it is asinine for a college to evaluate a student’s scores one way but to exploit these scores for its own benefit in another.</p>

<p>In that case mifune, I’m in complete agreement with you. I’m sorry about calling you a liar and cheater; I mistook what you did. I thought you didn’t send all your scores to schools like Y and S. I see no problem in you or anyone withholding certain scores from schools like H and P that allow you to do so. But I do worry that you would have withheld scores from Y and S if they were less than 2300. It’s still not ethical for you to violate their policy. If you don’t like it, don’t apply. On a side note though, I’m like 99% sure they don’t average scores. They say they only consider your highest section scores across all test dates. I think the reason they ask for all the scores though is to differentiate from a say 3-time tester to a 10-time tester. I think they essentially want to catch anybody who is test obsessed/a perfectionist. </p>

<p>Kinda off topic, but my little rant: Sometimes in life though, being a perfectionist isn’t all that bad. I wish colleges like HYPS would start treating ‘perfectionism’ in a positive way. Imagine what would have happened if people like Martin Luther King and Rosa Parks didn’t fight for complete equality… Imagine what would happen if they settled half-way or something. Only because they strove for perfection were they able to accomplish what they accomplished.</p>

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<p>The student could, if they so wanted, cancel the score after they leave the test administration and their test will never be graded. But if they choose not to cancel and apply to a college that requires all scores, they should not try to hide the poor score for any reason. Y’s policy doesn’t say “send us all SAT scores unless you fell sick on one of the days.” It says “send us all of your SAT scores.” Period. To not do so would be in violation of the agreement a student signs when he/she applies to the college. And when a student violates that contract (no matter how much they disagree with that contract on moral, logical, etc… grounds), they are being immoral and that student would be both a liar and cheater.</p>

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<p>I really do not see why a university would provide some advantage to a 3-time tester over a 10-time tester. The College Board provides the Score Choice policy to provide students with some rightful flexibility in the college admissions process. That institutions still choose to disregard this policy is not any less unethical than a student who chooses not to provide a score for purposes of not exposing a non-reflective performance. Moreover, I truly believe that the common sentiment on this website that taking a standardized test multiple times is overkill when a proper score is achieved is unfounded. Colleges value excellence and any improvement made by that student will only serve to improve their own statistical profiles.</p>

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<p>Of course.</p>

<p>the College Board made the score choice program so people wouldn’t feel as bad paying the SAT fee. Colleges have always pushed the idea that the SAT is one day and they place importance on everything, which is why schools super score: to compile all of your possible achievement over a period of days. However, it looks bad to take the SAT more than 2 or 3 times. Now with score choice, the SAT is all about that ONE day, which is sort of backtracking so the College Board can make commercial gains.</p>

<p>HSDFGDSJKFGSDHF my score STILL isn’t out! I hate College Board AHH! 4 weeks I’ve been waiting!</p>

<p>Mifune is such a great debater.</p>

<p>On a sidenote, though

This did look like he was violating the rules of some colleges.</p>

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<p>Again, under policies that respect the College Board’s Score Choice initiative, there is no fault associated with sending one’s best performance (and therefore the score that is most representative of present academic aptitudes). Of the colleges/universities that I have applied to, Harvard, Princeton, and Chicago supply this liberty to students (which is frankly quite appreciated and something that I did not hesitate to utilize); however, Stanford, Yale, and the University of Pennsylvania do not heed such a policy which is quite irrational in light of their policies that superscore regardless (though I did follow it). Thus, I firmly believe that the prerogative to not recognize the College Board’s initiative is autocratic in nature and does not grant a student the deserved sovereignity to decide the most proper representation of his or her present scholastic capabilities.</p>

<p>I don’t see what the big deal is about people retaking 2300+.</p>

<p>Scenario A: colleges view them as obsessive and they get screwed over</p>

<p>Scenario B: they’re just taking advantage of one of many opportunities to better their chances at admissions</p>

<p>Either way, doesn’t affect me</p>

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<p>It makes a big difference where the perfectionism is aimed.</p>