Decision for Lawrenceville is out!!

<p>aaralyn: Make sure they attend the revisit day… it doesn’t cost anything, and they can see for themselves the difference. </p>

<p>Also, makes sure to share the list from Forbes with them.
[America’s</a> Best Prep Schools - Forbes.com](<a href=“http://www.forbes.com/2010/04/29/best-prep-schools-2010-opinions-private-education_land.html]America’s”>America's Best Prep Schools)</p>

<p>i know this is a stupid and kind of selfish question, but do they give you a shirt or anything on the revisit day. I would love to rep l’ville at school.</p>

<p>Yes, revisit day students receive a white t-shirt with “Lawrenceville” printed on it. Also, the welcoming package usually includes some kind of coupon for the Jigger shop, our school bookstore. You can buy more apparel there.</p>

<p>Can you explain how AP classes are handled at L’ville? Are they going to be completely phased out at some point or are will some dpt.'s keep them? Do you know what other schools (boarding or not) are shedding their AP classes? Thank you.</p>

<p>brendan1: Unfortunately for me, it does cost a considerable amount to go to revisits. xD I live in China, so that’s about a 7,000 dollar flight per person… Lawrenceville is the only school I have been accepted to so I’m pretty sure we will not be going to revisits as there is no choice to make, but thank you for the suggestion and the link!</p>

<p>Seats in the front of the plane to China out of Newark are $5902</p>

<p>Coach can be anywhere from $1000-1600 depending upon when you fly.</p>

<p>Crap. I think I was thinking in RMB… I /meant/ 7000 RMB, so yes, a bit more than $1000. I apologize! Wow, I’m not thinking straight. xD</p>

<p>Im also class of 2015…however im on waitlist :confused: is anyone else on the waiting list? if so, did yours have a message saying you would be one of the first selected?</p>

<p>@perrier2468 since @LvilleTourGuide seems to be busy, I’ll answer your question about APs. I’m a current junior in Lville and the administration has announced this year that many AP courses are being removed from our curriculum starting next year (I believe AP US, Calc, and Physics are still offered). They pretty much mean that “Honors” courses aren’t going to be geared towards the AP test. However, you can definitely study the extra material and take the AP test itself in May. Hope that helps!</p>

<p>I haven’t been on CC in a long time but if anyone has questions about Lville I’m also really happy to answer.</p>

<p>lville13, what do you feel the removal of AP courses will do to the course selection at Lawrenceville as a whole? I’ve always been under the understanding that universities look favorably on AP courses as they are college courses… I understand that you can still take the exam, but that is with the “extra material” which means more outside work.</p>

<p>I am wondering the same thing as aaralyn. Do you feel the Honors course prepare students very well for the APs though?</p>

<p>Well, the problem faced with engineering a curriculum always hinges upon the classic breadth vs depth dichotomy. The administration feels that the current AP exam veers too much on the breadth side of the equation. In other words, the AP covers a lot of material but only gives a superficial treatment to each area. So, some but not all of the honors courses next year will stop tailoring the curriculum towards the AP and instead focus more intensely on fewer subjects. Students will be covering fewer subject areas within each discipline but will be gaining a much more thorough and nuanced perspective of each. For example, instead of covering Acid/Base, Thermo, Nuclear, and Organic, the new honors chem course might focus on only Orgo and Thermo. </p>

<p>As for how colleges will regard the curriculum at Lawrenceville, rest assured that they will still attribute the same rigor and academic excellence to the revised courses. In general, colleges like to see AP’s because they don’t and can’t know the level of rigor in a given high school class. AP’s are a yard stick used by colleges to compare applicants from vastly different high schools. The same reasoning applies for other standardized things like the SAT. However, Lawrenceville’s college counseling office has, how should I put this, very “close” relationships with many of the schools that our students matriculate to. Thus, the admissions officers at these colleges understand the level of a 500 class at Lawrenceville without the need for any AP designation. </p>

<p>An interesting side note - Lawrenceville was actually one of the six institutions that created the AP system, the others being Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Exeter, and Andover. See Wikipedia if you don’t believe me.</p>

<p>Thus, although there is much debate on campus about the changes to the curriculum, I will at least say that there is some reasoning behind the administration’s decision. Whether you agree with the reasoning or not, that is your personal choice. I hope that assuages your fears. </p>

<p>Cheers.</p>

<p>@LvilleTourGuide: Do a majority of students still take the AP exams though? If they do, how well do they usually score? If not, are you saying it is possible to still matriculate to a good college without AP results?</p>

<p>If the majority of the students at L’ville still take the AP exams, not offering it in school is a distinct disadvantage compared to students who are testing after taking the AP courses. Any other school moving away from AP courses?</p>

<p>Exeter doesn’t have AP courses either. And some other top BS have been decreasing their offerings of AP courses as well. Many students do take a few AP tests though. They are just not taking as many as a top student at a public school would, and colleges seem to understand that.</p>

<p>troy111: please keep in mind that AP is a registered trademark of the college board. In order for a school to list a class as AP, the syllabus must conform to what the college board has established. There are course audits that occur to make sure that what is covered in a class that is designated AP is similar to all the other AP classes at the thousands of other schools. Think of it as the recipes that go out to a chain restaurant. No matter how great the cook may be, he/she MUST use the establish recipe. It’s not surprising that independent schools would balk at that.</p>

<p>It’s ironic that the very schools that helped establish the AP program in the first place are phasing it out. Just because a class is not listed as AP does not mean that it isn’t every bit as rigorous as the one that is. My daughter took her first AP class last year and I promise that there would have been many non-AP classes at any number of prep schools that would have prepared her better for the exam. I did a cursory search for stats on the college board site but came up empty. I was looking for results based on whether the students had taken the class or not. I couldn’t find it but that doesn’t mean it’s not there. If college board is good at anything, it’s gathering data!</p>

<p>As I understand it, 1) many of the classes that have replaced AP courses at schools that have eliminated them (awkward phrasing, sorry) still leave kids well prepared to take AP exams. What I’ve generally heard is that the new courses are more in depth. Schools are just choosing not to teach to a test. </p>

<p>2) Fewer colleges are accepting AP courses as replacement for their courses, because young people often aren’t as prepared to go on to the next level of course as their counterparts who took the same course in college.</p>

<p>3)College admissions look at rigor; if there were no AP courses available at your high school, you aren’t penalized for not having taken them.</p>

<p>After revisiting, I’ve decided that L’ville is my first choice school if I decide to go away to boarding school. After the revisits, it was an easy choice, but it’s harder for me to decide if I want to leave. Any advice for reaching a decision?</p>

<p>Finally accepted after being waitlisted for all this time!</p>

<p>Congrats, Lvillehockey.</p>