<p>i stopped arguing...we both obviously have different points...and now after seeing the news about it and realizing its a cease fire, not a withdrawal...I see Lebanon making the mistake; thus the thing we were arguing about in the other thread is now pointless, cuz it was about withdrawal.</p>
<p>anyway...he could tweak some things to get swing voters. I like how he opposes upper class tax cuts, but I dont like his idea of a tariff on ethanol. And I like how he is all for voluntary student prayer in public schools...if he was up against a repub i didnt like, Id vote for him</p>
<p>it is a withdrawal, israel's forces will be replaced by an internatinal peace keeping force made up up troops from France, and a few others I can't remember off the top of my head.</p>
<p>yea but they want hezbollah to disarm, thats why at 7am they are going to stop...but Lebanon cancelled on the talks and Hezbollah is now saying its refusing to disarm...anyways...the middle east is ****ed. I mean, no one can fix it but themselves, and it looks like a few dont want to fix it</p>
<p>hezbollah is a ruthless terrorist organization, of couse they will not disarm right away. they thrive on the arab-palestinian conflict and it's in their best interest to keep this war going. </p>
<p>and we won't get anywhere with the attitude "it's ****ed anyway"</p>
<p>has anyone ever told you have you are a pessimist?</p>
<p>sorry bendrumfront but I have to disagree.. at least in part. America is hypothetically ready for a black prez but, realisticly, I don't see it happening for a little while now. Though the fact that it's 2006 and not 1956 is true, we still have a little bit to go before the subconcious of those who may have viewed blacks negatively is changed from how they once felt to how they (should) feel about the idea of a black prez. I admire your optimism though.</p>
<p>I wish I could agree with bendrumfront on the black president issue, but in reality average (less-educated) Americans are just not open to the idea--to win an election, you need to appeal to the average voter group, and that group is traditional, less tolerant, and unwilling to change. They won't vote for an African-American president in '08.</p>
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in reality average (less-educated) Americans are just not open to the idea--to win an election, you need to appeal to the average voter group, and that group is traditional, less tolerant, and unwilling to change.
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More educated + higher income groups are more likely to vote. Leah please cite some data before making these comments.</p>
<p>Only 8% of voters have less than a HS degree. More than thrice that number have a BS (28%), and 32% have a GED. To top it off, 32% of voters have a MS or beyond. The same numbers foe the non voters are 21%, 39% ,25%, and 15% respectively. Voters are much better educatedf than non voters. </p>
<p>Same thing goes for family income and employmernt.</p>
<p>There's also an interesting fact set with blue and red states. Democratic (so mostly the north) states are more educated with many more having a college degree, while with republican (mostly the south and mid...ect) many more just have a highschool education. I forgot the exact stats, but it boiled down to the democratic/northern states being more educated. </p>
<p>One of my teachers told us a story about how him and his wife were at some dancing (like old style) place in the south and somehow the election came up and the couple next to them said they didn't know anything about politics, but they were definitely voting for Bush because he's against gays. That kinda stuff makes me pretty mad.</p>
<p>Another interesting thing is when u look at a map of the blue/red states compared to the states that were against/for slavery they are pretty much the same. interesting...</p>