DePaul University or Indiana University?

<p>Good luck!!!</p>

<p>Good luck to you!</p>

<p>And Maxellis I am intending exactly the same majors and minor of yours. Would you mind share your 4 year class schedule here?</p>

<p>Thanks!</p>

<p>My ACT score gave me exemption from the required writing class. Credits I came in with due to AP’s:</p>

<p>CHEM-C 117 (5 cr., N&M)
PHYS-P 221 (5 cr., N&M)
PSY-P 101 (3 cr., N&M)
MATH-M 211 (4 cr.)</p>

<p>First Semester:
BUS-K 201
ECON-E 201
CMCL-C 121 (in place of BUS-X 104)
PHIL-P 100 (A&H)
COLL-E 103 (A&H)</p>

<p>Second Semester:
BUS-A 100
BUS-X 201
BUS-X 204
BUS-X 220
ECON-E 321</p>

<p>Summer at Bloomington
MATH-K 310 (instead of ECON-E 370)
BUS-G 202</p>

<p>Summer at local CC
BUS-A 201
BUS-A 202
BUS-L 201
ECON-E 202
HIST-H 103 (S&H)</p>

<p>Third Semester
BUS-A 311
BUS-A 329
ECON-E 305 (counts towards econ minor and finance major)
TEL-T 201 (S&H)</p>

<p>Fourth Semester:
BUS-A 312
BUS-A 325
MATH-M 118
ECON-E elective numbered above 321 that counts towards international dimension</p>

<p>Summer online through local CC (my CC doesn’t tell IU it was taken online, so IU will count it)
MATH-M 212 (N&M)</p>

<p>Fifth Semester
I-Core</p>

<p>Sixth Semester
BUS-F 303 first 8 weeks
BUS-F 305
BUS-X 304
BUS-S 400
BUS-X 301 second 8 weeks</p>

<p>Seventh Semester
BUS-F 400 level elective
BUS-F 300 level elective
BUS-A 3 credit elective</p>

<p>eldalin, here is another acct/finance double major four year plan to look at. Probably a good idea to finish all your 27 credit hour core classes before your last two years, even if you have to do a lot of them at community college in the summer, in order not to have a lot of hours in the semesters when you take the upper level accounting and finance classes.</p>

<p>IUPUI/Ivy Tech Summer 2008 4 cr
BUS A100 Bus Acc Skills (1 cr.)
ECON E201 Intro to Microeconomics (3 cr.)</p>

<p>Freshman 1 [Fall 2008]
HISP S275 Intro to Hispanic Culture (3 cr.)
BUS K204 Honors Computer in Bus (3 cr.)
@A&H AAAD A199 Hip Hop Writers (3 cr.)
@A&H HON H203 Cont. Latin American Lit. (3 cr.)</p>

<p>Freshman 2 16 cr
BUS A205 Honors Financial Acc. (3 cr.)
BUS X104 Business Presentations (3 cr.)
BUS G202 Corporate Social Strategy (2 cr.)
BUS X220 Career Perspectives (2 cr.)
@A&H AAAD A380 Black Writers (3 cr.)
@A&H COLL S103 Lit & Power Eur. (3 cr.)</p>

<p>Ivy Tech Summer 2009 6 cr
BUS L201 Legal Environment of Bus. (3 cr.)
MATH M118 Finite Math (3 cr.)</p>

<p>Sophomore 1 13 cr [Fall 2009]
BUS X202 Honors Technology (3 cr.)
MATH M119 Brief Calculus (3 cr.)
@A&H AAAD A379 Black Writers (3 cr.)
@N&M PSYC P101 Intro Psychology (3 cr.)
ENG W202 English Grammar Review (1 cr.)</p>

<p>Sophomore 2 13 cr
BUS A207 Honors Managerial Accounting (3 cr.)
BUS X204 Business Communications (3 cr.)
ECON E370 Stat Anal Econ & Bus (3 cr.)
ECON S202 Honors Macroeconomics (3 cr.)
INFO Y100 Explore Informatics (1 cr.)</p>

<p>CC Summer 2010 9 cr
@S&H POLS Y103 Intro Amer Politics (3 cr.)
@S&H HIST H106 US History 2 (3 cr.)
@N&M M211 Calculus</p>

<p>Junior 1 14 cr I-Core [Fall 2010]
BUS F370 Financial Mgmt. I-Core (3 cr.)
BUS I370 I-Core Discussion I-Core (2 cr.)
BUS J370 Strategic Mgmt. I-Core (3 cr.)
BUS M370 Marketing Mgmt. I-Core (3 cr.)
BUS P370 Operations Mgmt. I-Core (3 cr.)</p>

<p>Junior 2 14 cr
BUS A311 Intermediate Accounting I (3 cr.)
BUS A325 Cost Accounting (3 cr.)
BUS Z302 Managing Behavior in Orgs (3 cr.)
BUS G345 Money, Banking, Capital (3 cr.)
BUS X420 Bus Career Plan (2 cr.) 1st eight weeks</p>

<p>IUB Summer 2011 3 cr
BUS A329 Taxes and Decision Making (3 cr.) Three week class; ends May 27; do internship after</p>

<p>Senior 1 13 cr [Fall 2011]
BUS A312 Intermediate Accounting II (3 cr.)
BUS F303 Intermediate Investments(3 cr.)
BUS F305 Inter Corporate Finance(3 cr.)
BUS S400 Integration of Sys & the Bus (3 cr.)
BUS X301 Comm for Accountant (1 cr.) 1st weeks</p>

<p>Senior 2 12 cr
BUS A422 Advanced Financial Accounting OR A437 (3 cr.)
BUS A424 Auditing (3 cr.)
BUS F307 Working Capital Management (3 cr.)
BUS F446 Banking and Financial Inter. (3 cr.)</p>

<p>@owais027</p>

<p>70,000k is a lot of money. I live in Indiana and I agree that IU is a great school, but I personally would like to move on and experience my life in a big city, but that’s just coming from a city person.</p>

<p>IU is better in ranking, but after you graduate, are you going to want to spend that $583 (70,000 divided by 10 years = 7000 dollars a year. 7000 dollars divided by 12 months=583 dollars a month) still paying your tuition from something that’s over or would you rather spend that $583 EACH MONTH for outings, entertainment, vacations, going out to eat, supporting your family, and being able to afford new stuff? 7000 a year could be a REALLY NICE vacation!</p>

<p>Not to mention, DePaul is in CHICAGO. The opportunities for internships and networking are endless!</p>

<p>If you’re not liking the city idea for college, DePaul still has the campus feel you might be looking for. It may be a lot smaller campus, but for 70,000 cheaper, I’d take it.</p>

<p>I personally think that if you decide on DePaul, you’d be pretty happy with your decision.</p>

<p>[Top</a> Undergraduate Business Programs 2010 - BusinessWeek](<a href=“http://bwnt.businessweek.com/bschools/undergraduate/10rankings/]Top”>http://bwnt.businessweek.com/bschools/undergraduate/10rankings/)</p>

<p>IU’s ugrad business college is not ranked much higher than DePaul’s. Also, the average DePaul graduate makes $55,000 per year, higher than the average starting salary of an IU graduate ($51,000). It’s cheaper if you go to DePaul and chances are that you will make more money too!</p>

<p>Wow, a chip on your shoulder? Bring up an old post after the OP has already made a decision to start debate? Also, you should know that everyone uses US News; employers don’t care about businessweek.</p>

<p>Well actually we use Businessweek, a couple firms still use USN&WR but it’s not very accurate. Our firm recruits from IU-B and DePaul. As far as recruiting DePaul students get a fantastic education, and tend to have a better work-ethic. IU-B is still a great school but plenty of my co-workers from IU-B complain about their loans. Go to DePaul if you would like to get into IB work hard and it will pay off both are top notch schools. Don’t regret going to DePaul it is very prestigious especially in the loop. Odds are you will stand out more at DePaul anyways not to mention have more of an opportunity to gain admission to the Law school.</p>

<p>Uh-huh (rolls eyes)…</p>

<p>“Well actually we use Businessweek, a couple firms still use USN&WR but it’s not very accurate.”</p>

<p>So DePaul moved from #71 in 2009 to #40 only one year later in the Business Week poll and Business Week is the more reliable poll? Right.</p>

<p>Well I’m an employer of college grads and help with the recruiting process, our firm and our competitors all use businessweek. I assume you are all children who are in high school or are underclassmen in college. I’m telling you this for your own good, employers look at businessweek if you want an edge take it if not be arrogant kids. If you want to know why their rank increased is that their salary increased pulling in more Profs. from Kellogg and Booth. My friend and new Prof. at DePaul Mark Finn recently took a job at DePaul and is also a Kellogg prof.</p>

<p>I’m on this website for my son, I see a few things but when it comes down to it you can attend an Ivy or a 4th tier public university. If you work hard and do well you will succeed. It’s what you learn not where you went. It might have some clout when initially applying but after you’ve been in your field it’s how you’ve performed that counts. I do commend you kids for taking such an interest in your education but when it comes down to actually working you have to know the content.</p>

<p>I am the president of Nigeria and used to be head of the IMF, I just come onto this website for fun and to help advise kids on where they should go to school.</p>

<p>I can lie on the internet too.</p>

<p>There is no way DePaul would be better than IU for business in any rankings. Unless you got a huge scholarship for DePaul IU makes sense from a monetary stance as well. Your comments about investment banking show you have never had a job in finance. IU sends about 120 kids each year into investment banking (in the broader PWM/S&T/IBD sense) and about 40 into IBD of banks. GS, MS, JPM, C, BAML, and Lazard (to name a few) come onto to recruit for their IBD.</p>

<p>Stop trying to hype DePaul, it’s not a better school for business.</p>

<p>I don’t think the tide of Chicago area kids increasingly going to Kelley is going to be reversed anytime soon. 47% of Kelley finance major undergrads in the class of 2009 got positions in Illinois (in other words, Chicago). That is at least 400 Kelley finance majors graduating each year and getting jobs in Chicago. These are mostly Chicago area students who passed on DePaul because Kelley is obviously better. Kelley finance gets tons of 30+ ACT kids (you know, the ones with the bad “work-ethic”) from the Chicago area, and with the $9,000 per year automatic scholarships they are not paying any more than they would at DePaul and they are getting a better business education and not wasting their time taking half their classes in the liberal arts (DePaul’s core curriculum). Kelley is a better deal all around. DePaul is better than UIC and Loyola for finance, but not close to Kelley. Your son is probably interested in Kelley because he knows people that go there and love it.</p>

<p><a href=“https://ucso.indiana.edu/cgi-bin/brochures/Finance.cfm[/url]”>https://ucso.indiana.edu/cgi-bin/brochures/Finance.cfm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Oh without a doubt it’s a great school especially for IB. I do work in Finance not IB, but in audit. I work with alot of people in IB and they make my job tough but luckily I love it. For the price of Indiana you better have a great education. I have one kid who’s a sophomore at Notre Dame right now and one at NIU who left UIUC for their accounting program, it’s less competitive but he says the teaching is better. It’s a killer my other son got into Kelley, DePaul, UIUC, and USC. He’s accepted at USC and we’re so proud of him. I can barely afford this tuition, but a good education is key. From what I’ve seen DePaul has a fantastic undergraduate business program I hope our youngest wants to attend because it would save us a fortune, and get him a quality education. From my sources in the loop DePaul has a great finance program. After seeing your stats bthomp1 Kelley is better than I thought. I know DePaul’s accounting program Strobel and their marketing programs are top notch. Hopefully our youngest will go into business like our first three. This is my opinion from someone who is working in his field and has his money going toward these institutions. I’m sure you guys may know more about the schools but I’ve been in your shoes and hard work has paid off for me and hard work will be rewarded. That’s primarily the point I’m trying to get across to you guys.</p>

<p>bman404, congrats to your son on his admission to USC! He must have a fine record to have garnered acceptances at the schools you listed. </p>

<p>I think you might have a different view of Kelley if you researched its offerings a bit more, and visited. My son was accepted into the business programs at both UIUC and IUB back in 2007. He chose Kelley after visiting both and comparing the costs. After scholarships from IU, the cost difference was negligible. Also, a big factor in his decision making was the welcoming attitude and friendliness he experienced on his visit to IU. His visit to UIUC was completely opposite in that regard.</p>

<p>He was accepted at Loyola as well, but he wanted the Big 10 experience. DePaul was never really on his radar screen due to both size and cost. </p>

<p>Kelley has provided a great education thus far and has a very active career services office devoted solely to business students. Despite being a huge university, I have been pleasantly surprised at the amount of personal contact that is encouraged by the faculty and the courtesy with which administrative staff treat inquiries.</p>

<p>I agree with you that personal effort is the most important determinant of success. There are kids at IU that crash and burn, but I’ve known DePaul students who have done the same. It’s all about making the best of the opportunities that present themselves. Before your youngest makes a decision about where he wants to go to college, I would urge you to give Kelley a fair shake.</p>

<p>and btw, bthomp is a parent. : )</p>

<p>I know that Kelley is a great school, for me it’s that I have co-workers who have gone to both schools and they all seem to have the same outcome. Each child applied at DePaul and received $14,500 in scholarships and the Loop Campus is a few blocks from our office where they intern now during summers. The experience is what I feel urged my kids to not stay in the city. USC is a school that my wife and I love just because we love California and go west anyways. I know Kelley is a great school but in my location DePaul is very highly respected.</p>

<p>businessman404,</p>

<p>I think that you may know why BW’s ranking is somewhat controversial since Notre Dame has been ranked #1 in Business program for 2010. There are a lot of discussion about if it is a fair assessment. I am interested in your assessment about UND’s success in placing their students in IB since you have a kid at UND. Thanks</p>

<p>Well my son at ND wants to go into management and on every visit we’ve made there the program has looked very strong, along with a very respectable job fair. He has pretty great grades and we’re sure he won’t have any trouble with employment. As far as the finance program at ND goes I’m not as familiar with it as I should be but I’m sure it’s outstanding. We have a few people from ND with us and they all do outstanding work.</p>