<p>Was New Paltz acceptance a regular envelope or a big one? Just wondering, DD hoping to hear soon…</p>
<p>From NP she got a large envelope yesterday through the mail with an acceptance certificate and a nice letter and brochure, from Albany she got a small envelope (kind of scary…) with a letter of acceptance and a second page with the payment directions. Neither Portal changed, both still say “we are reviewing your application”.</p>
<p>same with my daughter…her friend who applied in late oct. already received her decision. daughters status says completed and ready for review. The waiting is agonizing!!</p>
<p>I talked to Admissions at New Paltz. They just sent out admission decisions on Wednesday. So, given the time of year, it’s most likely going to be there in the next day or two. </p>
<p>Daughter received EA acceptance to New Paltz today. No mention of merit scholarship. Was anyone told of merit scholarship or does this come later?</p>
<p>Still haven’t heard from Nee Paltz. Is anyone else still waiting? Has anyone received rejection letters?</p>
<p>A lot of people in my neighbourhood have recieved Oneonta replies today! Patiently waiting for my mailman! </p>
<p>I just want to see what Oneonta says so badly.</p>
<p>My daughter was accepted to New Paltz. Very happy. </p>
<p>My daughter just received an acceptance letter from Oneonta, she is missing Binghamton and Geneseo, however I think with Oneonta, New Paltz, Albany and Iona she has enough schools to take decision. We are very happy. I wish everybody Merry Christmas and Great freshmen year to class of 2019.</p>
<p>Ecd2019, what is your daughter planning to study? My daughter is thinking in BA with marketing and/or HR concentration</p>
<p>My daughter is thinking of English/Creative writing. She isn’t 100% sure, but there are so many great options- one of the things that drew her to New Paltz. I do think this school is a great fit for her. Very happy for her. Congrats to your daughter- that’s fantastic! Lots of choices. You must be proud. </p>
<p>Thank you Ecd, one of my older daughters, majored in creative writing from Binghamton in 2008, and a master from Columbia, poetry mostly. Had some good stuff published but she is mainly working on PR and events planning. To my surprise, who reads poetry this days, they get good work opportunities because of their English education.
The younger daughter now is telling us that NP is a little to close to home… I like NP a lot, the town around is safe and friendly, the school is nice and one of my son in-law graduated from NP in art teaching and he is doing very well. We do live at 30 minutes. We will see what happen.</p>
<p>Thanks Nydad. It’s good to know. My daughter is very interested in studying abroad and in doing at least one if not more internships. Those experiences will help shape what she will end up doing. I love the town and area as well.</p>
<p>I decided on going to Fredonia, but I hope I made the right choice because I hear that the gender ratio is really skewed (way more girls than guys) and that the town is small.</p>
<p>Didn’t hear back from Binghamton or Stony Brook yet. </p>
Son accepted to New Paltz. Got letter in mail today. Applied regular decision, Dec 1. Three for thee so far: Also in at Stony Brook and U. Of Pitt.
Latest status and question.
So far my daughter got accepted in, SUNY oneonta, new paltz, geneseo, albany, Iona, Siena, Marist and we are still waiting for Binghamton.
She wants Oneonta no other, we like it also a lot, the campus, professors, majors, not too close not too far, and Oneonta also set up a 30 min discusion one on one with a Marketing professor, mydaughter probable major. We already paid the deposit. We did visit all other colleges but Geneseo, away 5.5 hours.
Question from the mother: should we open the discussion to consider Geneseo? From what I read and heard it is impressive but the acceptance ratio is almost 60% not too selective in my opinion.
Any comments?
Why would anyone choose a college on the basis of selectivity and why would you use a percent as the indicator of selectivity.
None of the SUNYs are very selective. The overwhelming percent of the very top students end up at very competitive-selective private colleges or OOS flagships. <here come="" the="" arguments!=""> Tuition is almost free at top need blind schools for many students. And you’d be surprised at how high the incomes are of those who still get good money from great schools. Also siblings and retirement are factored into the financial aid packages. Anyone who tells you (the majority of) private and public schools are the same is lying or ill informed. Everyone I know who has spent an appreciable amount of time at both will tell you that there are large difference between (most) public and private colleges-most preferring the private. And there are huge differences between the “best” SUNYs and the best OOS flagships. But that does not mean that this is true for all students or that it is worth the cost if the cost is very high. How important that difference is depends on the student.
% accepted is meaningless. Some schools, and I bet most of SUNYs are among these, will count anyone who expressed interest in the school as an applicant. Perhaps that is an exaggeration but I bet SUNYs count as applicants any student who indicates their intention of applying on the common app even if they never send in any other material. That means a simple check gets them counted as an applicant. Can you imagine how many of the applicants counted by each SUNY school didn’t even send in a transcript or letters? A few schools won’t count as an applicant anyone who has anything missing. And some schools don’t even use the common app. That means that their applicants are already self selected because they are the students so motivated that they are willing to submit a completely separate application for that one school. Some schools use their own application, don’t accept the common app and don’t count any students as an applicant unless their own application is entirely filled out and accompanied by all the required scores, transcripts and letters. On the other end of the continuum are the SUNYs. Consider the likely difference between the student bodies in a school with its own application, that counts only completed applicants, and a school that counts anyone who checked it off on the common app as an applicant-even if both have a 40% acceptance rate.
Few schools with yields under 25% are very “selective” if that means being filled with the very top students. This isn’t always true but if 75% of the accepted students are going someplace else, it is probable that those remaining didn’t get in elsewhere or didn’t get in to places that they preferred. Maybe there is no pecking order and student preferences are idiosyncratic. If so, the yield says very little about the overall preference of one school over the other. The yields for most of the larger SUNYs are under 25%. In contrast, the yields for the best OOS flagships are generally almost twice that for the SUNYs.
So if % accepted is meaningless, maybe it should not be factored into the college decision making. It might be more helpful to consider things like how the applicant feels on campus, accessibility of faculty to students, type of student that predominates (if applicable), stated mission and values of the school (and extent to which school conduct aligns with those values), and other factors that impact quality of life on campus.
@NYdad2014, If your daughter is happy with Oneonta and it’s affordable for you, I don’t see anything wrong with letting her go there. Is there something about Geneseo’s program that you think may be better? Do they have more internship opportunities? Is their job placement better? If there’s not a strong, concrete reason why your wife thinks it would be better than Oneonta, I’d let your daughter go to Oneonta.
Lostaccount, I appreciate your comments but they are a little bit aggressive considering that most of your opinion is subjective and not factual. All schools use certain indicators to measure performance and some of them are comparable. SAT avge, GPA avge, acceptance rate, diversity ratio and so on. None is definitive by itself but in the case of Geneseo an increase of acceptance rate Year to year could be bad or good depending on the profile of the candidates. That was the intention of my question. Clearly you did not have an answer for the question.
I was not comparing Harvard to Binghmaton, nor I was making a statement that private or public are better. I was asking a question about Oneonta and Geneseo, both SUNYs. Not sure why you mix the subject unless you have an agenda of sorts or you are an internet troll.
In your rambling on private and public you did not pick that if my D is applying to SUNYs, cost of attendance is a factor, and in case you lack experience, I had 3 kids in college, unless you qualify for a lot of financial aid in the form of grants, not loans, the closer difference in total cost between a SUNY and a private was $10K/year,$40K more for undergraduate is too much and the ROI is far from positive.
Austin: Thank you, of course we looked into the academic differences, professors profile, and distance from home, I was wondering if there was something else that we could be missing, like internship. Finally my daughter kept Oneonta and we are happy as well. Let’s hope the experience will be up to her expectations.