Did YOU Submit All Required Test Scores?

<p>bluebayou - scores she sent this summer after 3rd take to all schools to which she knows she’s applying are: 760V, 740M, 800W = 2300</p>

<p>Her 4th take resulted in lower M&W, but 800V, a 40 point increase to 2340.</p>

<p>She’s a VERY busy girl: works part-time, Student Council President + president of two other clubs, chapter founder of one, hospital volunteer, multiple state awards and one national award in EC’s. For some odd reason, she actually enjoys taking the SAT test.</p>

<p>Might suggest she explain in other info section. Hmmmmm.</p>

<p>I took the march and october sat and decided to send all my scores to two schools with a november 1 deadline. I then realized a third school i’m applying to requires two subject tests so i registered for the december test date and also decided to send those subject test scores to all three schools. My question is this: even though i chose to send the subject test scores which will not be available unitl december, will the two schools with the november 1 dealine receive my october and march sat scores in time, or will the collegeboard send subject test scores and sat scores at once sometime in december?</p>

<p>When I retook the test in December I was sick (cold/cough) and couldn’t concentrate, and even though I had studied I did worse on my subject tests than before.</p>

<p>I took these tests before:
Chemistry- 680 (June 2009)
Math II- 720 (June 2010)
Physics- 610 (June 2010)</p>

<p>I took these in December 2010:
Chemistry- 640
Math II- 710
Literature- 560</p>

<p>Needless to say, I’m freaking out! I already sent these scores to a few colleges with the free score reports… What will they think? Do I have to send them to all the other colleges I’m applying to? If I don’t want to send them would I have to pay score choice fees? And does that violate the non-score choice policy most colleges have?</p>

<p>Any words of advice would help. Thanks! </p>

<p>Should I just send my 720 Math and 680 Chemistry then? Every one of my schools only require two subject tests.</p>

<p>Or should I send the 610 Physics OR 560 Lit in addition? Those two are reallyyyy bad scores. I am applying to some pretty selective schools…</p>

<p>You (DelfinoM) said it is possible to send multiple dates to the same school, all within the single score report fee. However, I don’t believe it is possible to do this.
“One Test Date Per Report… If you want to report more than one test date to the same college, first complete your request to report one test date and then choose Send Your Scores again [open a different score report] and request a report for the other test date.”
Please tell me I’m wrong. This sucks.</p>

<p>^I don’t know who DelfinoM is, but if you are talking about SAT reports, then s/he was right. For SAT scores (including both Reasoning & Subject Test scores), you pay $10 per school, but you can select which scores to send (by test-date for reasoning and single test for subject tests), IF the school practices Score Choice. If the school doesn’t, you must send in ALL scores. Again, this is for the SAT only, not ACT.</p>

<p>Ah sorry. I meant the ACT. But thank you very much for the SAT information; it’s still quite helpful.</p>

<p>Btw you mentioned score choice: Does this mean that SAT Subject tests must also be sent to schools where they are not required, even? If the school I wish to apply to does not require the subject tests, need I send them anyway?
Does anyone know this?</p>

<p>Oh, it’s no problem. Sorry that I don’t know how the ACT system works since I only took SAT tests. </p>

<p>Score Choice - for <em>some</em> schools (for full list of every school and their system, go to this link: <a href=“http://professionals.collegeboard.com/profdownload/sat-score-use-practices-list.pdf[/url]”>http://professionals.collegeboard.com/profdownload/sat-score-use-practices-list.pdf&lt;/a&gt;), you are allowed to choose which scores you want to send by test-date for SAT Reasoning and by SINGLE test for subject tests.</p>

<p>So, to answer your question: if a school doesn’t require subject tests, you don’t have to send them! If you’re sending SAT Score Reports, you have to go on CB’s website and when you’re sending them, you can check/un-check boxes to pick which scores you want to send/don’t want to send.</p>

<p>If they don’t require it, there’s no need to send it-UNLESS they “strongly recommend” it (e.g. Stanford) <em>or</em> you’ve done extraordinarily well (I would consider anything 750+ really good). If you’ve got high subject test scores, why not show admissions? It could tilt the scale your way if there’s another applicant who is equally as good as you on every other aspect of the application. Admissions would see that you put in the effort to take the subject tests and that you scored high on them.</p>

<p>Ah RainbowSprinkles you made my life!!! I tanked on the subject tests. It was so awful, proportionally to how I usually score, that I’ve since requested score verification from the Collegeboard (I thought only crazy people did that until my report said I scored in the 49th percentile). So thank you.
Well, I think you made my life. If a school requires that “All Scores” be sent, but they do not require subject tests normally, need I send the subject tests?</p>

<p>haha don’t worry, my calculator malfunctioned during the test, but I didn’t realize until weeks later until it was too late to do anything. I ended up with an even lower % but am re-taking in January (: 'sall good! I also requested score verification LOL that was before I realized… $50 not well-spent, but at least it bought peace of mind. I’m actually still waiting for the results hand-verification. It must suck to have that job. I know I would be bitter about reading bubble sheets all day long, all the while thinking: hmmph, these teenagers are just hoping for a higher score. They’ve got 50 bucks to throw away in this economy? hahaha I can just picture this. </p>

<p>sorry, I ranted.</p>

<p>If a school requires “ALL Scores”, they usually always mean ALL scores, including subject tests. Some schools are weird, like they will ask for either the whole ACT set of scores or all College Board/SAT set of scores. You’ll just have to confirm with the specific college for that one, I’m afraid. Just to be safe. I know you don’t want to send out bad subject test scores, but you don’t want to NOT follow the rules and get your application deleted or something, right?</p>

<p>Ah that would suck! I brought a back up calculator day of… did you have like a degree/radian issue? That’s a major bummer.
During my testing day, the proctor had a malfunctioning timer. So the timer sounded literally every 5 minutes throughout the second two tests, and she sometimes took a while to figure out how to quell it. Ugh. I highly doubt that accounts for my embarrassingly terrible scores. But still. I complained at the testing center and on the collegeboard website. Though I’m kind of regretting the first complaint… haha a teeny part of my wonders if I could’ve been sabotaged. Though honestly I think no one would take revenge on a teenager for complaining about a timer. Still… grr…
And I see, about the test reporting. I’ll surf their website today and see if I can glean any more info on the subject. Yikes. We’ll see…</p>

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No most schools that want all SAT scores only want the highest ACT composite.</p>

<p>And no, no one is going to delete your application for not sending all scores; for example, it’s feasibly impossible for a person who took the SAT in 7th grade to send it as part of the requirement when the test has already been deleted from their record. This individual will not have their application deleted nor will anything happen at all to their app. By definition, the rule for sending all scores is contradictory in itself.</p>

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Some schools allow an ACT as a subsitute for subject tests.</p>

<p>Yup, that was the issue exactly. I borrowed the graphing calculator from my teacher and oh, let’s just not go there. Anywho, the proctor didn’t allow me to use both of my calculators (it’s CB’s rule that you can bring a graphing and a scientific calc and you can use both-you just can’t use them at the same time. You have to switch when you need to). She told me that I had to pick one and I complained about this, and now CB is investigating it. I feel bad about it b/c she seemed inexperienced & unfamiliar with the rules, but I’m not going to let the next person suffer, too. CB e-mailed me and told me to call them back, but I didn’t check my e-mail until today and now they’re on christmas break -sigh- the timing is so off.</p>

<p>“No most schools that want all SAT scores only want the highest ACT composite.” I don’t understand what you mean by this, cjgone.</p>

<p>If you took SAT Reasoning as a 7th grader, you can choose to keep your scores, right? Can’t you still use them (though you probably won’t want to lol)?</p>

<p>That doesn’t even matter, anyhow, because having standardized testing is a REQUIREMENT for almost all schools! If you haven’t done it, then too bad. Some schools even tell you on their website that an application won’t be reviewed until a full set of scores have come in (e.g. Brown… or Cornell, one of the schools I’m applying to has that policy, but I’m sure it applies to most schools).</p>

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Several colleges that require all SAT scores do not require all ACT scores, rather only the highest composite.</p>

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That’s my point. You don’t and you can’t submit it to a college that accordingly requires all scores; and nothing happens, no one deletes your application, no one cares, and no one knows.</p>

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Please read this. If they don’t require it, why would you need to send it?</p>

<p>Yeah, that’s what I meant with the SAT/ACT thing. I think we confused ourselves.</p>

<p>If you can’t submit your scores/don’t have anything TO submit, your application will not get looked at by the schools that require standardized testing. Every CCer will tell you this. You think you can get into Harvard without doing your SAT (if it’s offered in your country)? Pfft. No WAY. They mean business. It’s a requirement, not an option. They WILL care and they WILL notice.</p>

<p>Okay, I think you’re not understanding what we’re talking about here. We’re saying that when a school requires “All Scores”, they usually mean both SAT/ACT and subject tests. I think what these schools are saying is that: no, we don’t require any subject tests. However, we still require ALL scores to be sent. The way I interpreted this was that you must send in ALL scores you’ve ever taken, regardless of what type of test it is or when you took it.</p>

<p>For example- BROWN says “We would not be able to read your application until we receive a full set of official test scores” [Brown</a> Admission: About the Application](<a href=“Undergraduate Admission | Brown University”>Undergraduate Admission | Brown University)</p>

<p>Translation: no scores = you won’t get in b/c we won’t even look at your app</p>

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Sorry it doesn’t say SAT/ACT.</p>

<p>It says SAT or ACT. “OR” in logical notation implies one or the other or both. Any option satisfies the statement. </p>

<p>It also doesn’t say all score. It says all SAT scores required for review which does not include the ACT either. The ACT and subject tests are excluded from the latter by most college statements too.</p>

<p>Okay, I am officially confused and now have no idea what you are talking about. </p>

<p>By “SAT/ACT” I mean SAT <em>or</em> ACT. The slash represents “or”.</p>

<p>I don’t understand what “both ACT/SAT” means assuming that / means ‘or’. Both ACT or SAT makes no sense.</p>

<p>“We’re saying that when a school requires “All Scores”, they usually mean both SAT/ACT and subject tests”</p>

<p>What I meant was that when a school requires “All Scores”, they want BOTH

  1. SAT <em>or</em> ACT
    <em>and</em>
  2. SAT Subject Tests</p>

<p>Is that clear?</p>