<p>Ok thanks so much!! :D</p>
<p>I think i will still take SAT but I am going to spend the majority of my time studying for ACT :D</p>
<p>Colleges prefer the SAT because it is more intelligence based, whereas the ACT ir more “how fast can you work” and “how much have you practiced” which they don’t care about as much. At the very least, take the ACT and SAT Subject tests to prove you are not totally incompetent.</p>
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<p>And CC readers prefer statements that are fact/data based rather than opinions – that happen to run counter to common sense and the thousands of statements by colleges otherwise.</p>
<p>@T26E4 - I guess you forgot that the SAT used to be used for MENSA high IQ society admission. That is no longer true, but the test remains largely like its old self and therefore still has a strong intelligence correlation. I know youre like all the other kids who couldnt crack the SAT but worked hard enough at the ACT to pull a decent score. I feel bad for you, but I understand that there are always ways around obstacles and I am glad that you found another way. </p>
<p>SAT is considered harder than the ACT, but both are equally accepted.</p>
<p>@Jewishboy1975 why THANK you for being so concerned about me! you needn’t waste any sympathy for my old bones who thankfully took my last ACT/SAT almost 30 years ago. I did fine on both tests and the colleges that admitted me agreed, BTW. Thanks for asking</p>
<p>But in the middle of your well wishes, you do not add a single iota of evidence to your assertion that “colleges prefer the SAT because it’s more intelligence based” </p>
<p>I wasn’t commenting on what the SAT is based upon nor its differences with the ACT. I’m challenging your assertion that colleges prefer it more than the ACT. I consider that to be the baloney, unsupported statement.</p>
<p>@Jewishboy1975: The ACT tests achievement while the SAT tests aptitude. It is commonly known that the SAT has a strong correlation with IQ, but that’s not what colleges are looking for. Intellect without execution is useless. If colleges wanted the “smartest,” kids, they would admit by IQ score. This trend is supported by the recent SAT redesign, in which achievement is valued over aptitude: <a href=“The Battle of the Tests: Why the ACT has overtaken the SAT – Experts Corner | Applerouth”>Page not found – Experts Corner | Applerouth;
<p>Coincidentally, when @T26E4 asked you to provide evidence, I feel sure he was referring to reputable outside sources and not your own ramblings.</p>
<p>@Jewishboy1975, Again thanks for your concern about what I do with my free time and if I run enough of “my own show” at this point. IRL, I do “run a show” as a matter of fact yet I have energy left to assist students like you and the OP, families and others on this site b/c I’m very fortunate. Even to the point where insulting teenagers don’t deter me. Again, that’s TWICE where you’ve eschewed providing evidence and instead opted for ad hominen attacks. Gotcha. I’ll not reply to you any longer and it’ll be best for me to block you so as I don’t run into any problems. Unfortunately, that means I’m going to to have to deny myself of your wealth of knowledge in the future JB.</p>
<p>@Jewishboy1975: This discussion is rather moot, as the SAT is soon to replaced with a more “curriculum based” test – one more like the ACT. (Parenthesis at the end of each bullet point are mine.) <a href=“http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/06/education/major-changes-in-sat-announced-by-college-board.html”>http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/06/education/major-changes-in-sat-announced-by-college-board.html</a>
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<p>@t26e4 - you are very fortunate aren’t you to be able to sustain yourself without being productive. That is American society nowadays. But I guess if raising your kids for an Ivy League schools meaning running your own show - sure, because 1600 posts tells me you have a damn lot of free time on your hands. </p>
<p>If you couldn’t tell, I am building my argument without sources because there are no sources. Why I explicitly pointed out why colleges would prefer the SAT, but I also pointed out why they now have to recognize the newcomer ACT. Yes, my argument is not supported by a link I can post, but it does make damn good sense, and I would always rather take the SAT anyways. </p>
<p>This argument only applies to the old SAT and kids now applying for school. You guys are correct that my argument is soon to be outdated, as the SAT is the new ACT. Kids sit on twitter and no longer have any aptitude, but a few can work hard enough. I would rather have aptitude as my grades and GPA and scores can show my readiness. </p>
<p>@Jewishboy1975: FWIW, T26E4 is an alumni interviewer for an HYP school. He may have also worked in the Admissions office for his alma mater. When you sit down for your college interviews, wherever they might be, I hope you can lose the “tone” and “attitude” as it will be noted in reports that are sent back to colleges. Best of luck to you!</p>
<p>Okay, Gibby, infant, this interviewer has effectively done nothing over the course of his life. Remember the whole “those who cannot do, teach” but in this case even less than teach - an alumni intrviewer! Wow! Definitely a building block of society, especially considering those interviews are the most worthless part of your app. </p>
<p>And thanks for the advice - you really are a sage. I will definitely kill my interviews. Best of luck to you as well!</p>
<p>@Jewishboy1975, the SAT is on the ropes these days. More students took the ACT than the SAT last year. Many states have incorporated the ACT into their high school graduation standards in the past couple of years, and the SAT is actually struggling to stay relevant. Hence the “revamp” that is going on next year, taking it pretty far away from its original roots. In some parts of the country, hardly anyone takes the SAT (never have), and those students still get into top colleges. I happen to live in a state that is more of a “SAT” state, and my kids took both, but I do not think colleges look at them differently. You show no evidence for your assertion that colleges “prefer” the SAT over the ACT. </p>
<p>And you are being quite insulting to one of our posters who is among the most helpful to students and parents out here who are looking for advice on college admissions. You are a newcomer here, and might want to get a better flavor for the tone & tenor of posts out here before coming roaring out the gates insulting people – this isn’t generally one of “those” kinds of internet forums. The general focus is on helping people through a very complicated process. And (amazing!) we tend to prefer statements that can be backed up by facts vs. random opinions that have no basis in reality.</p>
<p>Wow, this thread got pretty crazy.</p>
<p>Jewishboy1975 has been banned from CC, so you all can ignore his ridiculous statements.</p>
<p>Thanks, @fallenchemist. You guys are great.</p>
<p>I do feel as though the sat is more of an intelligence test (I read somewhere on here it’s correlation with iq was .84) for what it’s worth. Also, many of my Asian friends who’re strong math and science students and weaker at English tend to do far better on the act as well.</p>
<p>@theanaconda - I think that is a fair description of the test as it has been for years. That is why so many that are “slackers” on grades still do well on the SAT in numbers beyond what grades would indicate, and vice versa many that are 4.0 students still get somewhat lesser results on the SAT than would have been expected based on grades. Not saying those are majorities or anything, it probably follows form more than not. But it happens a lot more than with the ACT, it seems.</p>
<p>I guess we will see after the changes, but certainly every indication is that the SAT is indeed going to be more like the ACT. I hate to see that, personally, but that seems to be the case.</p>
<p>Yeah but it’s unclear what useful skills the old sat tested, especially cr and parts of writing seem like a conformity test, maybe the intelligent pick up on it and figure out what to conform too?</p>