Do I have a shot at attending a good University(maybe an Ivy) ?

@SirEdan I am not that familiar with the NY 4 year college competitiveness. I know that in my state, there are flagship schools that are really hard to get into, then the much less competitive 4 year schools. There must be one. What worries me about community college is that it may be similar to your high school experience - exposed to a lot of kids that don’t care (but I may be being judgmental of CC).

I would try really hard to stay put in your current location, as you don’t know what job you’d be getting in these satellite offices and if those jobs would really pan out. Continue to use your support system at work (colleagues and possibly the continuing ED department). Blackrock MUST have a continuing Ed department who may be able to help you get in and possibly pay for school (usually, though, they only pay for full time workers - and you don’t want to do a 4 year degree part time).

Don’t get too comfortable there (not saying that you are) - you really do need the 4 degree to make it in finance- the piece of paper matters. But try to stay. Its a huge leg up in asset management to have experience -even if its ops, or menial- you are learning lingo, and learning the business. I’m in the business and I know it will help to have that experience. But I wouldn’t hire you full time without the 4 year degree…

He doesn’t have s full time job, he has an internship. So getting them to pay for his education is unlikely. I also work in asset management. Go get the 4 year degree. Work summers in the field if you can, assuming your long term career goals are in the field. There are miles and miles of choices between the top 15 colleges and community college.

@suzyQ7 A lot of community colleges are like my high school–maybe not as many fights-- which is why I’m trying to get a better score on my ACT. But my manager’s boss actually told me it doesn’t matter where I go, because he said he’s seen my skills, what I can produce for the firm, and how my GPA doesn’t show what I can really do.

Bumping thread!

Your manager’s boss may not even be working at that company or in the field by the time you graduate. One comment by one exec does not a career make. Get a degree from a reputable 4 year college.

I just found out that my manager’s boss decided to get me a ACT tutor. It seems that this firm wants me here by making that kind of an investment in me.

Getting your company to pay for an ACT tutor is one thing (though that’s commendable on your manager’s boss’ part). Getting them to pay $50,000+ (over $100,000 or even $200,000 at some schools) for college is another.

They do seem to have taken an interest in you, and that can’t hurt. Take advantage of the tutoring, and come back when you have scores to report.

@NotVerySmart <- It seems that you username is very fitting for you! Colleges do have something called “financial aid” last I checked.

LOL. It’s not like they have unlimited money, either. Your record won’t qualify you for any merit aid. Are you extremely low-income? (Even if so, most colleges don’t guarantee to meet your full need.)

Maybe don’t be a jerk to the people trying to help you.

@bodangles Tell me how “Getting them to pay $50,000+ (over $100,000 or even $200,000 at some schools) for college is another.” is helpful! Did I ever state that I wanted this company to pay for my tuition ? I didn’t ask for any of the things they are giving me. I think some of you people need to work on your reading comprehension before posting.

The point was that you also need to consider finances, if you can’t pay out of pocket and are not in the running for merit aid. Those top OOS publics suggested earlier in the thread would again be a bad decision because they, by and large, wouldn’t give you any aid. Money has to come from somewhere. If you can’t pay, and your company won’t pay, and the universities won’t pay, you’ll have to tailor your college choices accordingly.

What do you want from this thread now? College suggestions that fit your budget? Or do you want to continue the tangent about how great your internship is…?

SirEdan - Since you are confident that you know more than anyone else, I can’t understand why you bumped this thread. You initiated an inquiry, various parties contributed insights, you rejected those insights, and so I think the conversation has ended. Your academic credentials are not within the range for admission to the colleges you’re interested in, and no grandiose statements about your internship can change that fundamental fact.

You obviously have a great drive to succeed, and a strong work ethos. There are thousands of four-year colleges that will admit you, but they are not the status “brands” you are looking for. It would be one thing if you were years removed from high school, with a wealth of life experience: that would minimize the importance of your high school grades and test scores. You have a range of options. You could enroll part-time in a local college (2-year or 4-year), and hope that the combination of work and good grades would compensate for previous inadequacies when you attempt to transfer. Otherwise, you can apply to colleges that will accept you with the grades and scores you have.

. . . or, you can keep arguing inarguable matters on this thread.

@SirEdan There are two ways to get aid at a school: financial aid, and merit aid.

With your GPA and ACT, merit aid is out of the question at most schools. The University of Alabama, for instance, has an average ACT of 26 and accepts more than half of all applicants (this isn’t particularly selective), but to be eligible for anything close to full tuition, you need a 3.5 GPA and an ACT of 30 or higher. At the sort of schools that carry real weight in finance, the bar is set higher still. Maybe 33-34 on the ACT and a 3.8 GPA at the very least. Sorry to be harsh, but most schools could care less about the fantastic internship you’re doing when your ACT is in the low 20s.

As for financial aid, a CC transfer will rarely be eligible for aid. Even if you are eligible for financial aid, there’s very little reason for schools to want an applicant with a GPA of around 3 and a 21 ACT (or a 27-28, which is the highest score you’re likely to get even with extensive prep). Supposedly “need-blind” schools will ‘gap’ students who need a lot of aid, by offering them what they know is far less than the necessary amount, forcing those students to choose another school and thus saving the university money.

If you get any aid from a decent university, then, it won’t be much.

Community college tuition in NY is just under $5,000 a year (Governor Cuomo is currently trying to eliminate CC tuition, so thank him for that). At NY state universities, the cost of attendance for an in-state student ranges from $12,000 a year (as a commuter, and the room & board expenses this figure assumes are ridiculously low) to $20,000 a year (living on campus). Assuming you’re going to graduate in 4 years, you still need to find $34,000 to fund your education, and I get the impression your family can’t afford that. If you’re going to live on-campus, that rises to $50,000. If it takes you more than 4 years to graduate (and, assuming you keep your position at BlackRock, it will), the cost rises by $13,000 or $20,000 for each additional year.

In short, $34,000 is the bare-bones minimum college will cost you, and it’s quite possible that the figure will be in the $75,000-100,000 range. If you want to attend a private university, tuition will be higher, and $100,000 is the low-end figure for your 4 years (places like Berkeley will cost $55,000 a year, plus the $10,000 for your two years at a CC). If you want to spend 4 years in university and bypass the CC route, the cost rises more still. You need to find that money somewhere.

The assumption you appear to be making is that your company will take care of you through college and have a well-paid position waiting for you when you graduate. They likely won’t. Most financial institutions look to hire Ivy League graduates or products of similarly prestigious schools (as several people have pointed out already), and back-office work rarely means a highly paid position down the road. So you almost certainly won’t get $34,000 from your company, to say nothing of larger sums (this is what I was pointing out). Very little is coming your way through financial aid. Which leaves a big gap between what college will cost and what your family can afford. And there’s no worse outcome for a low-income student than to enroll in a CC or university, drop out for financial reasons, and end up spending tens of thousands of dollars with no diploma to show for it.

Many people have done their best to offer helpful advice on this thread. I would suggest you take some of it to heart. If you want to insult everyone who says things you dislike hearing, you can also do that, but you’ll find that fewer and fewer people are willing to offer you advice.

OP, one suggestion I have for you is to create a LinkedIn account if you don’t have one yet. Link with the people you are working with now (and did you say you had a previous internship? Can’t remember… but if so, those people as well). In the years it will take you to finish school, some of those people will move on to other companies. But with LinkedIn, you can still contact them – so you may have contacts at more companies by the time you graduate! Keep adding professional contacts, older students, professors, etc I the next few years. It will position you well for internship and job searching in the future.

@intparent I already have a LinkedIn profile. I’ve been adding them since my second month here.

:slight_smile: Good move!

@NotVerySmart “The assumption you appear to be making is that your company will take care of you through college and have a well-paid position waiting for you when you graduate. They likely won’t. Most financial institutions look to hire Ivy League graduates or products of similarly prestigious schools (as several people have pointed out already), and back-office work rarely means a highly paid position down the road.”

This made me grin a bit. Yes, it is true that that firm does hire Ivy League graduates or products of similarly prestigious schools–lets not forget that I’m not even in college yet, let alone be an Ivy student, but this firm gave me a chance to work here and are investing in me despite my low GPA and ACT score. Even @intparent pointed out that this firm is taking an interest in me. My managers are setting up meetings for me to meet the people that will help me get to where I want to work, because they know what I want to do. Also, it is not impossible to move from back to front office.

I am taking the advice people are offering me to heart…I wanted to go to a top/Ivy school, but I now know that I don’t stand a chance according to everyone posting; therefore, I will be attending a CC/State University that my family can afford.

@SirEdan At the end of the day you come off as bitter for your lack of reputable achievement. Perhaps realize that you are not God’s gift to earth, and your GPA and ACT are quite frankly a joke.

A 21 ACT score is poor, with or without studying.

You say you don’t want to play the race card yet you insist on doing so, consistently complaining about your high school, etc.

Man up and mature.

@HarvardMaths

Well, if you personal feel that way about me, than I don’t know what to say to you. When I have people who post comments like post #49 and 66, then I get “bitter”. I’m looking for comments that can will help pick a college. So far, all you’ve done, is tell me how employers are more likely to hire a HYPSM grad over me and how great they are.

I’m pretty sure I stated that I wasn’t happy about my ACT score in this every thread…

So, stating that I’m Black male who comes from a low income family is “playing the race card” ? So I guess when someone states their gender and race, its “playing the race card” huh ?

Also, that “Man up and mature.” part… If you can’t post any good advices like the others have, then you are more then welcome to leave my thread.