<p>"one of the guidance counselors at our school said that highly selective schools are less likely to accept twins because it doesn't add to the diversity of the school. i don't know if this is true."
Wouldn't then adding a set of twins add to the diversity.</p>
<p>I don't see having twins being much different than having siblings at different stages at the same college, one freshman and one sophomore, for example. Also if the twins are diverse in race, being first generation, or having diverse interests, that might add to the decision making.
I have twins, one right now (nothing in stone yet of course) likes Biology, one is looking into accounting or History...they would not be carbon copies of each other.</p>
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I don't see having twins being much different than having siblings at different stages at the same college, one freshman and one sophomore, for example.
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<p>Well the key here is <em>identical</em> twins, because they would have both identical genetics and identical environment, and identical cognitive aptitudes...</p>
<p>I would just like to point out that everyone is noting an example where they know of such and such twins that both got into the same school; it is nothing more than anecdotal evidence. What about all the cases where twins don't get into the same school? You never notice those cases. Correlation does not equal causation, additionally. The fact that there are numerous examples where twins got into the same school does not prove that it was because they are twins. Confounding factors must be taken into account; perhaps the fact that identical twins were raised in such a similar fashion would lead to a higher probability of both getting given one of them getting in. The exact same upbringing could lead to similar opportunities and somewhat similar stats when applying to college. This is just my .02 so that everyone keeps this in perspective.</p>
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The fact that there are numerous examples where twins got into the same school does not prove that it was because they are twins. Confounding factors must be taken into account; perhaps the fact that identical twins were raised in such a similar fashion would lead to a higher probability of both getting given one of them getting in. The exact same upbringing could lead to similar opportunities and somewhat similar stats when applying to college.
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<p>Actually, that's what I'm trying to investigate -- how significant the identical heredity and environment are.</p>
<p>Not at the admission committees <em>noticing</em> they are twins.</p>
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I would just like to point out that everyone is noting an example where they know of such and such twins that both got into the same school; it is nothing more than anecdotal evidence. What about all the cases where twins don't get into the same school? You never notice those cases.
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<p>I'm trying to get that also -- a statistical perspective of this identical twin thing. The curiosity is primarily an intersection of heredity and cognitive science, on school admissions.</p>
<p>Because personally, I do not know any identical twins who are not attending the exact same schools. It happens that one pair are both taking a gap year before going into an Ivy.</p>
<p>My mother was a twin. The attended different schools for both undergrad and grad.</p>
<p>Yes, but was she an identical twin?</p>
<p>This is critical, you know. </p>
<p>If you don't have the exact same genes as your sibling -- chances are, there is a much higher chance of the aptitudes and interests (especially in schools) being different. You know, what with different neurocircuitry, different axonal growth factor release patterns, different neurotransmitter sensitivities, different patterns of wiring at birth, etc.? </p>
<p>After all, intelligence phenotypes typically come from genotype complexes -- a slight change in one of the many required genotypes -- as much as a single amino acid substitution -- might result in a radically different personality, because of the altered way protein products might interact, or altered transcription/translation regulation, etc. So in this question, having identical genetics is critical.</p>
<p>It's the identical environment and genetics, and their impact on admissions that I wish to examine...</p>
<p>Heritability</a> of IQ - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Twin</a> study - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia</p>
<p>Not contributing to the genetic discussion here, but</p>
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Afaik, one pair went to Princeton, another pair went to Stanford.
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The Quahs and the Wu Mengs?
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<p>Priceless. Singapore is that small!</p>
<p>some other twin threads & links</p>
<p>Seeing</a> double, admissions office weighs merits of twins - News
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-admissions/589189-twins-applying-ed-same-college.html?%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-admissions/589189-twins-applying-ed-same-college.html?</a>
this is a good one: <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/553395-ny-times-article-about-selective-admissions-twins-triplets.html?%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/553395-ny-times-article-about-selective-admissions-twins-triplets.html?</a>
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/brown-university/540424-what-my-twins-chances-brown-ed-2013-a.html?%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/brown-university/540424-what-my-twins-chances-brown-ed-2013-a.html?</a>
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/yale-university/540650-twins-applying-yale.html?%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/yale-university/540650-twins-applying-yale.html?</a>
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/417174-twins-multiples-parents-one-school-more.html?%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/417174-twins-multiples-parents-one-school-more.html?</a>
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/376109-any-other-parents-twins-out-there.html?%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/376109-any-other-parents-twins-out-there.html?</a>
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/310724-twins.html?%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/310724-twins.html?</a>
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-admissions/96899-twins-admissions.html?%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-admissions/96899-twins-admissions.html?</a>
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/76478-twins-application-process.html?%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/76478-twins-application-process.html?</a>
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/23902-twins.html?%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/23902-twins.html?</a></p>
<p>I don't think it's all the time, but some of the time I'm sure. They're different people with different grades so it could be possible.</p>
<p>we had twins who are both at gtown.. val and sal. gpa differed by like .001.</p>
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Yes, but was she an identical twin?</p>
<p>This is critical, you know.</p>
<p>If you don't have the exact same genes as your sibling -- chances are, there is a much higher chance of the aptitudes and interests (especially in schools) being different. You know, what with different neurocircuitry, different axonal growth factor release patterns, different neurotransmitter sensitivities, different patterns of wiring at birth, etc.?</p>
<p>After all, intelligence phenotypes typically come from genotype complexes -- a slight change in one of the many required genotypes -- as much as a single amino acid substitution -- might result in a radically different personality, because of the altered way protein products might interact, or altered transcription/translation regulation, etc. So in this question, having identical genetics is critical.</p>
<p>It's the identical environment and genetics, and their impact on admissions that I wish to examine...
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<p>Yes, she is an identical twin. (And obviously was at the time) She went to Radford undergrad, Duke grad. Twin sister went to Emory undergrad (think she went there grad too) then went to seminary.</p>
<p>I know a pair of identical twins who are both going to Brown.</p>
<p>I go to school with two identical twins, and I mean IDENTICAL. Same hair, make-up, clothing style, everything. They take all of the same classes with the same electives and are in the same clubs with the same officer positions (they share them). They almost have the exact same grades (1 has all A's all four years and 1 got 1 B in a class sophomore year). They are applying to the same schools, their first choice is the same, and they hope to study the same thing. I'm sure they will get in to the same places.</p>