Do non-whites face discrimination in primarily white institutions?

<p>I have been told that schools like LSU, UNO, and Southeastern (I am from Louisiana) have discrimination against African Americans. I would like to know about if Middle-Easterners, Asians, and Latinos face as much discrimination as African Americans. Tell me your opinion or experience please.</p>

<p>The reason of me asking this question is I don't want to invite someone that is a minority to a predominately white school and then they get discriminated because they are not white.</p>

<p>*I am not trying to make a debate post (that breaches the terms of service), but I really would like to know about it. I really don't know where to post this question anywhere else in the internet.</p>

<p>everyone faces discrimination</p>

<p>^a bit of painting everyone with the same brush there. that was my intial reaction as well, but jumping to conclusions is never a good thing</p>

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I’d love to see that substantiated. Every part of it: middle-easterners, “third tier”, colleges, “conservative”, and south.</p>

<p>As an LSU student, I can say that I haven’t witnessed discrimination against minority students based on their race. Sure, we’re in the deep south, but I find that the university atmosphere is very tolerant, liberal, accepting, and diverse. There’s a lot of blacks, whites, Asians, middle-Easterners – you name it at LSU – and I’m sure the same could be said for a majority of the other public secondary institutions in the south.</p>

<p>All:
I personally didn’t see a lot of discrimination against minorities in majorly white schools. Unfortunately it saddens me when my African American teacher told me that some of her former students told her that they faced discrimination in wherever I want to go. Let me be a little more specific, I want to invite an Asian American friend to go to such a school with me. So I want to know if it would be okay for him since he is accepted to where I want to go but I heard about that from my former teacher. Should I asked him to go with me?</p>

<p>Halogen:
That’s okay. Don’t worry about it. I just want opinions or experience (if you have one).</p>

<p>I’d recommend asking asian students at your school if they ever experience discrimination because of their race. Don’t just ask one, ask people of all genders/ nationalities. They’re the ones who are likely to give you the best answers. </p>

<p>Also, unfortunately racism happens at every school. I lived near one of the largest Asian enclaves in America, attended a high school that was around 30% asian and still heard some ignorant people complaining about how of course ___ won that academic award. She’s Asian, therefore she’s smart.</p>

<p>I then went to a college that was around 40% asian and heard far fewer remarks like that. It may have something to do with maturity, something to do with self selection, etc, but my college, although it was located in the South, was a far more tolerant place than my high school which was right next to one of the largest Vietnamese, Chinese, and Korean enclaves in North America.</p>

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That’s cool; I impulsively call out prejudice when I see it ;-)</p>

<p>Yes, everyone still faces discrimination although I am hoping that it is mainly covert and seldom overt. Sounds bad, but it is a big improvement from what was. All minorities must learn to deal with it and come away bruised but not beaten.</p>

<p>sosmenza:
Well, in addition, I faced discrimination too sometimes when someone told me that I am too white to be in the high school that I graduated from. Some people says that I am white then I must be a racist. That wasn’t very polite but I have to go over it anyway. </p>

<p>whenhen:
I see what you are saying. I guess I don’t have to worry about that and tell him to come.</p>

<p>I suggested that you talk to asian friends about discrimination, or the lack there of, they may have faced on campus. If it seems that a wide variety of people didn’t experience a problem, then you can probably recommend a friend to come to your school. However, it’s often difficult for people not of the same race to notice discrimination. </p>

<p>For instance I was riding in the car with my friend and a cop pulled him over, during the day time when they wouldn’t have been looking for DUIs or anything of the sort. His crime? Doing 37 in a 35 zone. He’s an extremely dark skinned Indian-American, and complained that that sort of thing happened all the time probably because he was “driving while dark” (his words). As a white female, I’ve never encountered that and would have said that the cops treat all people relatively equally. So again, it’s probably worth it to talk to your friends before you recommend a school located in the deep South (and yes, I’ve lived in the deep South and the racism there is simply appalling, at least in rural Georgia).</p>

<p>Considering I come from a PWI in a north midwestern blue state and have faced heaps of discrimination from my white peers, I’ll be willing to bet Black students at those schools face discrimination as well. But LSU and Southeastern I know also have a strong Black student body collective, something I missed out on at my school. So there are trade-offs. Sad to say, but you can expect to face a fair amount of discrimination at any PWI you attend. All that changes is the form and maybe severity (here it tends more towards microaggressions, whereas other Universities have more problems with racist vandalism and violence).</p>

<p>[Can</a> Google Predict the Impact of Racism on a Presidential Election? - Garance Franke-Ruta - The Atlantic](<a href=“Can Google Predict the Impact of Racism on a Presidential Election? - The Atlantic”>Can Google Predict the Impact of Racism on a Presidential Election? - The Atlantic) gives a measure of racism (against black people) by state, using search words put into Google by users in various states. (Note that some “north midwestern blue states” were found to have fairly high levels of racism, such as PA, MI, OH.)</p>

<p>The research paper, which tries to correlate that with the relative shares of votes for Obama versus other Democrats in presidential elections, is here: <a href=“http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~sstephen/papers/RacialAnimusAndVotingSethStephensDavidowitz.pdf[/url]”>http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~sstephen/papers/RacialAnimusAndVotingSethStephensDavidowitz.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>However, the results may not necessarily be the same with respect to racism against other groups.</p>

<p>I don’t find many Asians that I know that goes to the school I am going to go. However (I hope this is relevant), I find that there’s so many (and I mean MANY) Asian professors. Do you think this would highly reduce the chance of him being discriminated?</p>

<p>I think I worry too much don’t I? :(</p>

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I just talked to him and he said that his two brothers went to a predominately white college in New Orleans and they were well respected by their professors. The school I want to go to is not in New Orleans, it’s in Baton Rouge (which is next to New Orleans) (Don’t say the school name even you know what school I am talking about). I hope this is helpful answering my question.</p>

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<p>Rice had 3 middle eastern players and a middle eastern assistant leave their basketball program due to racial slurs by the AD.</p>

<p>NOTE: Please note this discussion may be deleted if it turns out to a “heated” debate. It should be okay if one doesn’t agree with another opinion and speaks up about it, but make sure don’t talk too much or this thread will be deleted.</p>

<p>You’re going to face discrimination everywhere you go… not just the south.</p>

<p>South Carolina (where I go) actually received an award for Diversity this past year and we’re the ones who jump-started the whole Civil War by seceding from the union.</p>

<p>I don’t even really think that it’s down to the specific college. I think most large universities are going to have racists and bigots, whether they’re in California, South Carolina, Louisiana, New York, or Timbuktu. But you’re also going to have nice people who really are just there to get along, make some friends, and learn something.</p>

<p>As others said, the best way to figure out a university’s atmosphere is to talk to current students, but even then, every class is different and if it’s a large university one student might just have a really bad experience and another might just have a really good experience. It’s really hard to generalize.</p>

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<p>You are bruised but not beaten. Carry on! That’s all anyone can ask.</p>

<p>This question is impossible to answer, because it’s a really individualized question. Some non-white individuals will sail through college with no memorable discriminatory experiences. Some may be the targets of more minor microaggressions or singled out (e.g., being asked to give a Middle Eastern perspective in a sociology class or an African American woman getting her natural hair petted by people) but not really experience anything significantly negative. And some may have one or two (or more) very negative and memorable experiences that impact them forever. It’s really difficult to judge, and it’s not necessarily regional or stereotypical. Some non-white students will have very positive experiences in conservative southern states and some will feel very alienated at Princeton or Brown.</p>

<p>Also, I don’t think non-white students’ goal should be to completely avoid discrimination. That’s impossible, and it also leads to missing out on potentially amazing experiences because of fear.</p>

<p>I’m African American myself, by the way. I currently attend a predominantly white school (Columbia) and I don’t think I have faced any outright discrimination here. I feel very supported and treated like an individual.</p>

<p>juillet:
Thanks for your opinion and your optimistic review. It might be just I am worry too much about it or I am just being cynical. Anyways your example sometimes happened to me too, but that’s not very racist…or even come out from curiosity or unintentionally. What’s really racist is if someone called me a racial slur (there’s racial slurs against white people), beat me up because of my race, or treated me differently.</p>

<p>I and my Asian friend were in a predominately black school and he said that he only faced a little bit of discrimination (in other words, some people just being stereotypical but not racist). However, my African American friend told me that they were highly discriminated by staffs. The dean gets her in trouble for nothing but not me and my Asian friend. </p>

<p>sosomenza:
Feels bad but I grew up from it. However, sometimes I am being a little protective about it. So that’s make me concerning about it. I don’t want him to face what I’ve faced.</p>

<p>barrk123:
That’s sad. They are also Americans!</p>

<p>ucbalumnus:
I talked to my former teacher before about what I am asking you all now. She said:</p>

<p>Unfortunately African Americans are discriminated a lot of times in predominately White institutions. That’s the reason they have a tendency to attend a predominately black institutions. I don’t know about Asians, but I know that they are stereotyped as doing above-average work. Asians are not treated as African American so don’t worry too much about it.</p>

<p>Anyway, I agree with the stats your posted.</p>