<p>or if your in the college can you just choose that major. Do you go straight from high school to business school or do you take like pre-business classes first? Is it harder to get into business school than regular admissions?</p>
<p>Depends on the school. Some directly admit you as a business major (4 year programs) into the business program. For some, you get admitted to the university then try to transfer into the business program your Junior year. I'm pretty sure you're in the college of arts and sciences if you're at a school where you transfer into the b-school your junior year.</p>
<p>I think for some 4 year programs, you get admitted as a pre-business, then you can transfer after you complete the X amount of classes, which for most kids means that they transfer into the b-school their sophomore year. </p>
<p>In the end, it really depends on the school.</p>
<p>crs1909 is correct--and the way they do it depends on the school.</p>
<p>At some schools you start taking business courses immediately in the school (Wharton, NYU)</p>
<p>At some schools you start taking courses immediately in the business school if you are a direct admit and otherwise take preliminary business courses to apply as a freshman or sophomore and take the higher level courses starting in your junior year (Indiana).</p>
<p>At some schools you take one year of general courses and then apply to the school as a freshman and start taking classes your sophomore year (Michigan)</p>
<p>At some schools you take two years of courses, including some business prerequisites like accounting and econ and then apply as a sophomore and start as a junior (USC, North Carolina, Virginia)</p>
<p>And at some schools you take only the econ courses before applying as a sophomore and then take the business courses (including the accounting courses) in the business school starting in the junior year (UC Berkeley, Emory)</p>
<p>Oh, and generally it is harder to get into the business school than into regular admission to the school. Examples:</p>
<p>UC Berkeley--must have about a 3.4 at UC Berkeley first two years (or 3.8 from California community college first two years or 3.88 from college outside of California) for admission to the business school</p>
<p>USC--takes about a 3.4 internally from USC, or 3.7 from outside of USC for admittance to the business school</p>
<p>Indiana--takes about a 3.0 to 3.2 internally from Indiana for admittance, about a 3.2 to 3.3 externally to be admitted</p>
<p>Michigan--takes about a 3.3 internally for admittance</p>
<p>Emory--takes about a 3.3 to 3.4 internally (3.4 to 3.5 externally) for admittance)</p>
<p>Virginia--takes about a 3.4 internally (3.4 externally for in-state students, 3.6 to 3.7 for out-of-state students not already admitted to Virginia) for acceptance to the business school.</p>
<p>Also, the SAT averages tend to be much higher than the normal school: (these are based upon just the SAT Critical Reading + Math sections)
Examples: NYU--normal school 1350, business school 1420
Indiana: 1221 for the normal school--about 1300 for the business school
USC: Normal school--around 1340, business school - 1360 (this one is closer because the other schools at USC--cinema and communications and engineering also have high averages).</p>
<p>Calcruzer: Are you sure all you need is a 3.6 to 3.7 to get into McIntire from oos? Seems on the low side. I was thinking it would be closer to a 3.8 to 3.9.</p>
<p>My son took summer courses last year at UVA, including taking one course from the McIntire school. The general consensus from the students, faculty, and administrators he talked to was that it normally took a 3.7 GPA to transfer between your sophomore and junior years from OOS--but that it could possibly be a 3.6 GPA if your SATs were on the high side and you had lots of leadership in the resume.</p>
<p>P.S. Since my son didn't have a 3.7 at the end of last semester, he skipped applying to UVA--even though he liked everything about the school except how remote (rural) it was.</p>
<p>Keep in mind this could change now that UVA almost beat out Wharton in the Business Week survey of top undergraduate business schools this year. I expect the applications to start going up this year or next.</p>
<p>Maybe, its just that a 3.6-3.7 seems like a low GPA when the transfer acceptance rate into McIntire is usually like 17 or 18%</p>
<p>here is how it works....</p>
<p>some schools have 4 year programs some have 3 year and some have 2 year </p>
<p>for the 4 year programs you usually apply to as a high school senior, however some schools will also take freshman- i stress some
they are usually harder to get into
some examples
NYU Stern
U Penn Wharton
Penn State Smeal
IUB Kelley
Georgetown Mcdonough</p>
<p>3 year programs- apply as a college freshman but some have garanteed or "direct" or "preferred" admission
beware some programs are extremely competitive to get into(meaning you may not be able to major in business)
U Mich Ann Arbor Ross (very hard to get into 33% internal transfer)
MIT Sloan
Notre Dame
for MIT and Notre Dame i think you just need to pick business as your major</p>
<p>2 year programs- similiar to 3 years but more common</p>
<p>UNC kenan flagner- 66% acceptance
Rutgers
UVA</p>
<p>With 2 and 3 year programs there is a risk
you may not major in business
in terms of programs, they are very similiar
you usually have take liberal arts in your first two years so what you learn is similiar.
however if you take alot of APs, a 4 year may be more beneficial for you may already have fulfilled some of your liberal art requirements</p>
<p>Calcruzer: "Michigan--takes about a 3.3 internally for admittance"</p>
<p>That statement is quite misleading. In 2007, the average GPA for freshman admitted into Ross 3-year BBA program was 3.6 (That means an average grade of A- in your freshman year courses). They accepted ~300 applicants out of 900. And it's getting more competitive every year. They expect over 1000 applicants this year for 280 available spots (350 total class but there are already 70 high school pre-admits)</p>
<p>2007 Stats: <a href="http://www.bus.umich.edu/pdf/20073yearprofile.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://www.bus.umich.edu/pdf/20073yearprofile.pdf</a></p>
<p>The acceptance rate is going to hit a around 27-29% for this year's freshman applicants. And probably continue to decline next year. </p>
<p>There is always the option of doing economics or engineering if you don't get into Ross. But if as a high school student, you're set on a business undergrad, it's very very risky to enter Michigan as a freshman just to get into the business school (like me, lol).</p>
<p>Thanks for the update, jack_bauer76--although it should be noted that my comment was what was the minimum for acceptance, not the average. I'm guessing the minimum is still at least a 3.5 to 3.55, though--not 3.3 as I indicated, so I do appreciate your letting everyone (including me) know that. </p>
<p>Also, Indiana's business school average SAT is 1340, not 1300 as indicated in the article below: </p>
<p>Playbook:</a> Does Your School Make The Grade?</p>
<p>meaning that it is an amazing 119 points above the university average.</p>
<p>I can't keep up with these numbers--since they seem to just keep going up phenomenally year after year.</p>
<p>P.S. Also, note that 92% of Michigan Ross students had internships in their junior year during summer 2006. (per the article above)</p>
<p>In any case, all these numbers support my main point--which is that getting into the business schools is much more difficult than just getting into the universities themselves.</p>
<p>1340 is for indiana direct admit. the overall SAT is alot lower.</p>
<p>typically 4 year programs have higher SATs than 3 and 2 year programs</p>