I know some people on here say that if you go to an Ivy it is easier to get hired for a higher position on the first job than people that go to non-ivies. However, when becoming a doctor…A doctor at the same level as any other doctor, so does going to an ivy for med school really give you any advantages. What’s the difference between a person who gets a Doctorate from Harvard Med School than a person who gets a doctorate at a lower ranked med school (not by much) such as Baylor Med school or the difference of a doctorate coming from UT Health Science Center.
Thoughts and Opinions anyone…
<p>acceptance to a more competitive residency program?</p>
<p>How does that matter? I thought in residency they send you to different hospitals.</p>
<p>I've heard that a better school is more likely to get you into better residency programs.</p>
<p>But after residency is over..does it matter? For example, if your going to live in a certain state..you are going to work as a doctor in that certain state..your chances of getting hired are still the same right?</p>
<p>True. I know top med schools students who accepted to top residencies- one from UR going to UNC Chapel Hill and another from Harvard med school staying in Harvard...</p>
<p>crazyscientist brings up a good point too, but a better residency might give you better experience and opportunities than a slightly less better residency program.</p>
<p>Which residency programs give students the best experience and opportunities. I don't see how you can measure that.</p>
<p>Since I go to a medically based school...I watched a video on Harvard Residency students..any many of them had BAD experiences.</p>
<p>Um, people who go to med schools don't get PhDs: they get M.D.'s.</p>
<p>As to med school, John's Hopkins University, Stanford Med, UCLA Med, to name a few, are non ivies which are in the same league as the ivies and will give you the same amazing placements (and ucla will save you lots of money at the same time!) Ivy is just sports league, which has EVOLVED to mean quality. Realize, for every amazing Ivy program in a field, there are probably 3 comporable if not better ones out of the Ivy league.</p>
<p>bump bump bump</p>
<p>Getting into med school is the big challenge, not getting into the best undergrad college. Some pre-med programs during your undergrad years can be very competitive. At Hopkins, students will sabotage the lab experiments of other students in order to get better grades themselves on the curve. Other colleges such as Stanford are very laid-back. (I will put a plug in here for Emory because it has one of the best pre-med programs in the country.) </p>
<p>Being a top student from a top school will help you get into med school, but med schools accept applicants from all over and being a top student from a state university is just as good. Something to think about is that it is better to be in the top half of the graduating class from a less competitive school than the bottom half of the class from a more competitive school. Another factor is the cost of a top private school over a public university if you don't get a good financial aid package. You might want to save the money for later if you plan to go to med school.</p>
<p>I agree with you dufus3709</p>
<p>It depends on your career goals. If you wish to simply practice medicine, then graduating from pretty much any US medical school will likely suit your needs just fine. But if you wish to go into academic research medicine and become a professor at a major medical school or prestigious research institute, then it would probably be to your advantage to have graduated from a big name medical school.</p>
<p>Once you get INTO the doctor world there is a whole nother set of hierarchy to deal with. There's the <em>Harvard</em> doctor and then there's everyone else. Or so my Aunt says. And she went to Yale! </p>
<p>Not that Yale is worse than Harvard...not my point.</p>
<p>I really don't know. Was your aunt a doctor? It is my understanding, though, that in the medical field, Hopkins is the top school for a doctor to have graduated from.</p>
<p>At any rate, that is about where you graduate from med school, and not about where you go to undergrad.</p>
<p>Thats what I've heard too about JHU</p>
<p>This is early for someone applying to undergrad, but here is a site listing what they think are the top 50 US medical schools at which to do research. It is in alpha order. Nobody would ever try to rank something like that!</p>
<p>I don't think so ClaySoul, once you're a doctor, that's that. If you're a good doctor, doesn't matter where you got your degree from. Patients don't care, they just want treatment. You are part of a community of doctors who are all the same as you: an MD (or DO). I say this because there are several people in my family (including my father) who are doctors who have at least mentioned something about the topic.</p>
<p>I can agree with ClaySoul in that some people might feel superior about their "better" med school, just like some people feel superior about their "better" undergrad, but, in general, i agree with GoldShadow (my dad is a doctor too, and, since all the doctors here seem to know each other, there is no "Harvard Dr" click and now "JHU" doc click ect)</p>