Does a 590 reading score automatically mean no?

<p>I feel like the rest of my stats are pretty good but the 590 in reading is really an issue but I have taken SATs 4 times and just can’t do it again.
I live in New Jersey. I am a senior and I am a caucasian female. I am also applying RD. I will be applying as a bio major hoping to follow with med school.</p>

<p>SAT:1980
Math:740
Reading:590
Writing:650
SAT Subject Tests:
Math 1-730
Math 2-710 </p>

<p>ACT:27(didn’t submit)</p>

<p>GPA:3.72UW 4.18 W
Class rank:56/394 (14%)</p>

<p>Senior courseload:
AP psychology
Latin 4 honors
AP Environmental
AP Calc AB
Anatomy
PE
AP Literature</p>

<p>Junior courseload:
Honors english
Honors history
Latin 3
Sewing and fashion(to fulfill requirement)
Honors precalc
Honors physics
PE</p>

<p>Extracurriculars:
Gymnastics(captain)
Competitive dance
Latin honors society president(secretary as junior)
Peer leader
Ski club
Senior editor on yearbook(3 years)
*personal statement- my best friend and I started a business to completely benefit st. Judes childrens hospital. We make and sell baked goods called cake balls and give 100%of proceeds to st judes. We sell during school and have catered events including our junior prom. We also have a website so people can order them.</p>

<p>Volunteer:
I have taught religious instruction to 2nd graders for the past 4 years.
I have conducted numerous food, clothing and toy drives for my local food bank on my own.
I have done other volunteer work at my dance studio.</p>

<p>Job experience:
I teach my own dance class at my dance studio.</p>

<p>Awards:
700 club in my school(club for those who score above 700 on SATs)
1st place in school science fair
3rd place in school science fair
2nd place in regional science fair</p>

<p>My teachers that wrote me recommendations like me and I believe that they expressed my hardwork and respect in their letters.</p>

<p>My essay was VERY different and maybe a little risky but I was already accepted to Washington College with 18,500 a year, Loyola Maryland, and Fordham at Rose Hill. Not trying to brag but not sure if this helps. I think that’s everything!
I would’ve applied early but I was waiting to take another subject test until December.</p>

<p>I’ve taken the sat 4 times too. They really mostly care about CR+M and your math is so high that it should help. Since u wanna do science they’re going to pay more attention to that math. Were ur scores in act english sections better? Like high 20s or 30s? If so send ur act in. Idt it means no bc ur not applying to be like an english major or something and ur CR+M is good</p>

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<p>Dear Tryan7294 : Unlike what has been previously written, the cumulative score on the SAT I is not the only factor examined - specifically, each section stands on its own which is precisely why Boston College publishes independent numbers on each section. As for a 590 in the critical reading section, this is a bottom quartile number and actually maps to between the 10th and 15th percentile of the accepted class. Basically, this is the type of number that you will see from accepted students who might have a special skill sought by the university - athletics or otherwise.</p>

<p>Remember that the Boston College core (liberal arts) will stretch your reading/writing skills to an extreme. A key question for you in offseting the CR=590 score is how you are doing in your AP Literature course? Certainly, you should be demonstrating A/A- performances in your AP coursework to make a claim against the critical reading score.</p>

<p>Here is what is concerning : in your profile, we know more than Boston College might know. An ACT score of 27 likely includes a math/science score in the 32-33 range based on your SATs. My concern is that your reading scores were in the 23-25 range which is beyond the bottom of the Boston College admissions curve.</p>

<p>Give some serious thought as to whether the core at Boston College actually is something to which you will be drawn.</p>

<p>scottj I am doing well in AP lit receiving about an A and my ACT reading score is actually a 28. The reason my score is so low is actually because of my science which is a 24 which is the reason that I’m not so sure about sending my score since I am going in as a bio major. Any advice?</p>

<p>Also forgot to include that probably my strongest letter of rec is coming from my AP Lit teacher who focused greatly on my improvement over the two years that she’s had me as a student. She really loves me so I’m not sure if this might help?</p>

<p>As a caucasian male, also from NJ, and a current freshman at BC I feel qualified to answer this question.</p>

<p>That being said, your academic qualifications are nothing special, based on my experience here. What you come to find out is that a lot of people here who have taken honors classes are are all generally, bright, kids. so you have to find something that makes you stand out. The fact that you’ve taught religion and run your own business are two things that may help you out. BC, as you know, is a Jesuit college and would probably put a +1 next to that. Entrepreneurism is also generally looked positively by colleges.</p>

<p>Your science awards also help you out, as they show you are really dedicated to the subject (btw, I’m also a Chemistry major). The main thing that worries me in you application is that you should make sure your other letter of recommendation comes from your Bio teacher. To have two letters of recommendation from teachers who aren’t in a science field is not a good thing.</p>

<p>Don’t think that BC is at the same level as Loyola MD or Fordham, because BC is a step up from those two schools. That being said, I do believe you have a genuine shot at getting into BC, but your SAT scores do worry me a little. Include in your app that you wanted to apply early, as that may help because it shows dedication.</p>

<p>clockblues thanks for your response. I do realize that bc is not even close to the same level as the other schools. Those were my safety schools and bc is definitely a reach for me. As for my letters of rec, the science teachers at my school are particularly known in my school for being just plain awful. When I went to seek out letters of rec, I was actually advised by my counselor to not ask them for letters of rec. I also forgot to add that I just started an internship at a local hospital once a week during school and I was also accepted into national honors society and I was chosen as athlete of the month but my app was already submitted so I have to send in a letter. Any advice?</p>

<p>Hi!
So I applied EA and just got accepted, and I will be Bio major as well. I have a similar GPA.
I had relatively low SATs that I didn’t submit, but had a 30 (31 superscored) on my ACT. That is pretty equivalent to your SAT score.
My science was also low.
I think what really helped me was that I had a 780 on Bio-E SAT II and a 5 on AP Bio.
Is there any way that you could take the Bio E or M subject test in time to submit it? Because if you do well, that might really help you out! It might also help to see if you could do a little better on the SAT II Lit test (I had a 620 or something on CR and ended up with a 740 SAT II lit score, so it may be easier?)
I did not have my science teachers write me letters either.
I would emphasize the internship and your community service hours.
I hope that this helped a little bit.
Good luck!</p>

<p>soontobesenior thanks for your advice! I actually tookthe biology-e and did absolutely awful! Im not sure exactly what happened but I’m thinking that I filled Out the form wrong because I actually have done that before…but the issue is that the score automatically sent to colleges:/ I’m considering including an explanation about that in my letter but my score was 520. I am so embarassed.</p>

<p>Dear Tryan7294 : Does your High School have Chemistry AP or Biology AP on offer? While you do not need to declare a major for admission (aside from your application to CAS), a science major would be expected to have seen AP level material in High School. A Biology SAT II score at 520, regardless of the reason, combined with missing AP courses cause an already tenuous SAT I score of 590 to pale in comparison. An ACT Science score of 24 is roughly a 540-550 on the SAT scale, so is it really the case that your 520 is out of bounds?</p>

<p>We have now completed several reviews of elements in your application. Unfortunately, these exchanges have been exposing additional challenges as opposed to creating a firm platform.</p>

<p>For the regular decision round, complete your application as well as possible to cover these highlighted gaps. However, our guidance would be less than complete if we did not offer to review your safer choices in parallel. We hope that your passion will show through in your essay - and remember to answer the question “why you will make Boston College a better place?” That is the challenge given to all applicants, regardless of academic credentials.</p>

<p>I think it is a low-reach. The standardized test scores are the only bad thing, really.</p>

<p>Your extracurriculars, class rank, course rigor, etc. should be enough to pull you through… I still say it is a low reach, though, because of your low reading scores. I’m not going to say you’ll definitely be accpeted and get your hopes up, but I think you have a solid chance. Try and sharpen your application to show them you are interested and adept at science, despite your low test scores (you can show them this through essays, more extracurriculars, supplemental recommendations, etc.).</p>

<p>Also, applying RD gives you a better chance, as BC commits to only accepting 30% of their overall accepted students from REA.</p>

<p>Good luck, and I’m pulling for you to get in! :)</p>

<p>AJB1993 thank you! I’m going to try my hardest!</p>

<p>Unfortunately, I have to agree with ScottJ – time to seek better matches. Let’s look at the downsides to this app:</p>

<p>Female applying to A&S: negative</p>

<p>NJ: negative</p>

<p>Rank: negative</p>

<p>Test scores: negative</p>

<p>Subject test scores: negative (send both Maths to a liberal arts college is never good)</p>

<p>Senior schedule: negative (3 so-called AP Lites)</p>

<p>Can some/all be mitigated by outstanding essays? Perhaps…</p>

<p>Good luck.</p>

<p>bluebayou I guess I’m just going to have to wait and see. My friend that has similar stats to me from my school who also submitted 2 math scores and mine were better and she was accepted early. Her SAT I score was a 2010 which is only slightly higher than mine so I guess that you just never know what will happen.</p>

<p>Why are you asking all these random strangers? There opinion are just that: speculation. Nobody on here knows if your going to get in or not, so quit asking them!</p>

<p>Theperfectapp I just figured would see if anyone knew anyone with a similar situation and could give any insight on their outcomes.</p>

<p>@Tryan7294, The art of predicting acceptance in a college IS about as unpredictable as the weather. At least the weather is supposed to be a science. This comes from the fact that it is not all about GPA and SAT scores which are the analytical starting point. Beyond that everything seems to be very subjective based on one’s strength of EC activities, Community service and writing skills that come through in the Essays.</p>

<p>Even in an essay, a college admissions officer said that she once saw an essay that was written about an applicant’s grandfather. She was very impressed with the essay but she felt that at the end of the essay she had learnt a lot about the grandfather, but knew very little about the applicant. You guessed it, not admitted.</p>

<p>The issue Tryan is that admissions is based on approx. 6 factors, 3 of which are gpa, transcript and test scores. Moreover, those are the only factors which we, the cc public, can comment on since your essays and recs are not available (nor should they be). Thus, we anonymous posters can only really comment on numbers and whether your EC’s are truly outstanding.</p>

<p>Thank you to those who have given their honest opinions and advice due to past experience. </p>

<p>I also must add that I do understand the ability to which those anonymous commentators can offer knowledge. I am under no impression that anyone on cc can give an answer to whether I will be accepted or not, I was merely looking for guidance and/or any relatable advice that anyone can give.</p>

<p>That being said, I am sincerely curious as to why it is a negative being a female and applying to the College of Arts and Sciences? And I must know exactly why it is considered a negative being a New Jersey applicant?</p>

<p>I also forgot to add that I just started an internship at a local hospital once a week during school and I was also accepted into national honors society and I was chosen as athlete of the month but my app was already submitted so I have to send in a letter. Any advice?</p>

<p>What I’d recommend you do is send in a one to two page (two at the MAX) paper, a supplement, into the admissions office basically detailing anything you forgot. Include the things that you forgot and also reverberate your passion for BC. I know when I applied to Carnegie Mellon (which was really high on my list at the time) I had sent a couple addendums to my application during the time. I ended up getting on the waitlist and didn’t want to play around with all that, so here I am at BC.</p>

<p>As for the whole female from New Jersey thing, the fact that we’re from Jersey is difficult because NJ has some of the highest test scores in the nation, and a LOT of people from the northeast apply to BC. Thus, the bar is raised a little bit for us Jerseyans, because the admissions department wants a diverse class, not just one of kids in the northeast. There are debates as to the legitimacy and actuality of this negative, but I feel that it exists, in general, for us Jersey kids.</p>