<p>most public schools in new york city are god-awful, with the exception of the five specialized schools and a few others. all the money seems to get funneled to the public schools upstate, which is BS. ah well--i won't be dealing with it anymore.</p>
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<p>It depends. For courses like Health, Personal Fitness, and a few others, perhaps. There are quite a few courses that teach the subject material quite accurately though, especially the APs. I've had several friends that were taking the FLVS AP course while I was taking the same course at school and we were pretty much on the same level.</p>
<p>I though FLVS was a joke to and it is if you take an easy class like economics. But i'm taking AP goverment now and i have to read every chapter and study etc.</p>
<p>Regular and honors classes on FLVS are pretty darn easy.</p>
<p>AP classes require a bit more work. I can tell you that AP Lang on FLVS is very tedious. I'm still not finished with the second semester. woops</p>
<p>NAH U CRAAAAAAAAAAAZY</p>
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- The state pays for AP fees for all public schools.
- State also pays for college fees for any kids who want to do dual enrollment.
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<p>omg die</p>
<p>BUT SERIOUSLY FOLKS, NY-CA-TX, then a few Northeast states, then FL...</p>
<p>I hate Florida.
I can't wait to get out of here - I want to go to college in New York or California most likely. Our schools suck (Lee County). The only school in like the top 1400 schools is Fort Myers, which sends kids to top schools. I couldn't go there even though its about 7 minutes from my house, School zones suck.</p>
<p>I'm taking FLVS Personal Fitness and maybe a few more next year. I think it will be a piece of cake.</p>
<p>for anyone who has taken AP's on FLVS before, which one is the easiest? as in like the work load and amount of time it takes to complete, along with the actual difficulty of the course.</p>
<p>My high school was the opposite. Scoring a 1000 on the (old) SATs was considered an extremely high achievement. Getting a C in class automatically made a student eligible to take an AP class. Receiving a 2 (even though most colleges don't accept 2s) is considered an achievement, and students who received either an AP 2+, a 1000 on the SAT or an 18+ on the ACT were given a "certificate of achievement" and had their names place on a bulletin board.</p>
<p>lol, texas went the cheapskate route; we pay $54 instead of $84 per test. From what I hear about dual enrollment, it's a lot easier than the AP classes and some of them are pass/fail.</p>
<p>^ Better that they pay $30 than $0, like in Michigan</p>
<p>Yeah... it's not only Florida.</p>
<p>Mine as well add Pennsylvania (my state...yay), Massachusetts, New Jersey, California and Texas on as the blatantly obvious annoyingly smart states.</p>
<p>everyone is obviously going to biased that their own states are smarter/more competitive. Every state has its own competitive/non competitive districts,but on the whole a good judgement of a states' average competitiveness would be its national merit cutoff score.</p>
<p>If we assume that tjan is on to something, then the National Merit's top 5 highest cutoffs might be of interest.</p>
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<li>District of Columbia 223</li>
<li>Massachusetts 223</li>
<li>Maryland 221</li>
<li>New Jersey 221</li>
<li>Delaware 219</li>
<li>New York 219</li>
<li>California 218</li>
<li>Connecticut 217</li>
<li>Virginia 217</li>
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<p>Florida, for what it's worth, had a 212 cutoff. As a Bay Stater, my sympathy is in short supply.</p>
<p>"everyone is obviously going to biased that their own states are smarter/more competitive. Every state has its own competitive/non competitive districts,but on the whole a good judgement of a states' average competitiveness would be its national merit cutoff score."</p>
<p>I'm more inclined to say my state sucks.</p>
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<p>This thread is about how good Florida's education is, and that is a horrible, horrible way to determine how good education in a state is.</p>
<p>I know there are plenty of schools in my county that mandate taking the PSAT. So students that would normally not take it have to take it, and they mess up the cutoff score. </p>
<p>Florida offers many many opportunities for students to excel. I'm sure it holds the record for "state with most IB schools," I'm like 99% positive. lol</p>
<p>Florida pays for AP exams so that low-income students are not dissuaded to take AP exams. Also, at least in my county, dual enrollment is free. You do not have to pay for college classes or textbooks. The schoolboard pays for them. Many students in my county graduate with their AA degrees and high school diplomas. Best of all, Florida has the Bright Futures scholarship program. Provided you meet the requirements (which really is not all that hard), you can go to a 4 year university (in Florida, of course) for practically free.</p>
<p>Florida education, from my experience, has been a bit of a joke. I'm from a pretty decent district (Collier) attending one of the lower performing schools, though. I'm pretty sure I took the most AP exams (about 11), but unfortunately many, many of my classes were taught at a terribly low level. Passing rates of 50% are considered high at my school. One class had a 5% pass rate, recently (1 out of 20). As poorly as the AP courses are taught (and trust me, they're taught quite poorly: I could not have passed my tests without self-study), the honors classes are a massive step down. The honors curriculum often turns into the regular curriculum (for example, physics honors becomes a mostly conceptual class with very little math; a chemistry class skips some chapters originally planned), and I'm not sure how poorly the regular courses are taught. Regular here is reserved for those who don't speak English. If you speak English, you're an honors student here. I have a couple of friends who came from some other states (North Carolina, Colorado) who said they had never heard of AP before coming here, but their honors courses in their old states were much more rigorous than the AP courses here. Anecdotal, but I believe it: it's not hard to be more rigorous than our AP courses!</p>
<p>Don't even get me started on FLVS courses: I took one and despised it. It was 100% busy work. And an extraordinary amount of busy work at that. The competitive students in my school (probably about 5 per class, the ones who really want to be valedictorian for some reason) tend to resort to these courses as GPA boosters and tend to learn nothing from the courses. Many As in AP courses but 1s and 2s on AP tests (though I suppose this unfortunately also happens in our real classes too). Funny, though: the three people from my school accepted into Ivy colleges this year (usually it's 1 or 0) did not take more than one FLVS course: I suppose we spent our time actually doing something and not just trying to boost our GPA and colleges appreciated that :). I wonder if colleges know how terrible FLVS is.</p>
<p>Anyway, It's great that our state pays for AP exams, and there's definitely a huge push for AP courses (our school probably offers about 12, which is pretty high considering our low collegebound rate and low native English speaker rate). Free tests is great, though: I wouldn't have taken all the AP tests if I'd had to pay.</p>
<p>I really cannot wait to start college this fall and get out of the public school system here.</p>
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<p>Don't generalize. We had to pay $95/test in my district in Michigan.</p>