<p>^^doymand: If your instate school (Rutgers) does not offer your major, some OOS publics will give you the instate tuition rate…I don’t know or think that PSU does this, but it doesn’t hurt to ask…</p>
<p>fwiw, I think that PSU at $46,000 is bordering on insane…if there are other options available or otherwise…</p>
<p>When I took into account the type of meal plan I wanted and type of housing, psu is about $36,000/yr. Not including books,travel expenses and miscellaneous which vary per person. This is still a lot but beats $46,000.</p>
<p>In state COA with the summer school program is $38,000. My daughter can go to an OOS honors college for $15,000 or a private university in DC for about the same. PSU is out of the running for us.</p>
<p>^^^ Same…got great scholarships to other schools, and at 38,000+,
Penn State was just not going to work. </p>
<p>My parents would of been able to pay the bill, but we decided it wasn’t worth it.</p>
<p>GodgivenWealth, I am in the exact same sitation as you are.</p>
<p>@Smartmove are you going to Penn state ?</p>
<p>I still don’t understand where people are getting this $46,000 figure from…</p>
<p>^Same here and even on elion its say like $43,000 but if you really take into account what housing and meal plan you want it is much less. Not including books etc</p>
<p>I’m not sure yet. But I’m more likely going to UMCP due to this fact.</p>
<p>I just answered eromano333’s question about a spring concert. Then it occurred to me, the band that is playing UPenn’s CONCERT is ONE of the OPENING acts for PSU’s eight hour long FESTIVAL. Is this indicative of the spending mentality at PSU, or what?</p>
<p>Well, I assume that you read the article you posted, and that you remember the main reason for the increase in funding was the change in classification of the event. Now it is an independent organization withing the university, and no longer affiliated with Res Life (i think?). In other words, it now has its own budget, rather than being a small part of a larger one.</p>
<p>Are you saying the funding is coming from somewhere other than the university? If not, I fail to see your point.</p>
<p>For a multi-billion dollar business, I wish they’d divert more funds to academics and financial need scholarships. Especially with this new pending PA budget that could raise tuition even more. Saying the money simply isn’t there is a copout.</p>
<p>Or for a program that prides itself on its sensational alumni network, more fundraising for financial need should be a priority, IMO ($80 million for a hockey arena?).</p>
<p>Penn State certainly does a great job of marketing itself, and that’s really all they are obligated to do as a business. Just wish more emphasis went into diversity and attracting more out-of-state students. </p>
<p>There are great rewards to be had here, but at what price/extra gamble? Just a lot to think about and a very tough situation for bright OOS students.</p>
<p>All i meant was the funding wasn’t coming from Res Life, or whatever. Movin-On is not its own entity within the university. I apologize if the tone was a bit harsh.</p>
<p>Also, as far as Penn State getting alumni funding for student aid…that doesn’t happen very often. The vast majority for large-sum donations go to something specific (that $80 million for a hockey arena), or another large building.</p>
<p>It sucks to see OOS tuition go up so much, but as Pres. Spanier said, that is the real cost of the education. The in-state students get tuition rates that are reduced due to the state appropriation. Now that appropriation is cut in half…the problem is, they can’t just pass that cost along only to the in-state students. There are way more of them than OOS, and a larger percentage of those that get offers actually enrole, as compared to OOS students.</p>
<p>And lets not forget, it is a public university, so it therefore, first and foremost, serves the state of PA and its citizens.</p>
<p>P.S. I was an OOS Student (from CT, class of 2007)</p>
<p>Where are you getting a figure of 46K from?
Because when I went to their college calculator its not more than 40K</p>
<p>At the end of the day, to me it boils down to not the actual cost of tuition and all of the other expenses being too high, but simply the lack of emphasis Penn State puts into supporting its students with grants and other aid, both merit and need-based. And it’s not just that. Athletic events, rec facilities, etc not being more discounted and convenient for students just rubs me the wrong way.</p>
<p>Instead, it’s a tremendously wealthy business much more concerned with enhancing its own elitist marketing image with magnificent buildings, statues, and other architecture. Can’t say I really blame them as a business, but it’s just a shame in terms of racial and OOS diversity. I imagine this rubs others in the same wrong way when looking at the University as a whole.</p>
<p>If you look at other prestigious universities with even higher quality education such as Princeton, they have this same option to give grants and ensure the financial securities of their students, and come through. And many schools do it with less. Again, none are obligated to do so.</p>
<p>Many OOS students at Penn State have less than 25% of their financial need met by PSU, and that’s through just loans. To me, that’s pretty obscene.</p>
<p>Many schools simply put more into their students with less. That’s the bottom line. I just don’t buy that the money isn’t there.</p>
<p>Say I’m bitter, but I’m just calling it as it is. Penn State may be a fantastic school, but the one area they are truly lacking in is financial student support, especially in today’s dismal economy.</p>
<p>We are in Calif. and OOS tuition to our public schools is $33,000; $45,000 with room and board. I would assume that most people would check out the COA an OOS school prior to submitting an application. Most public state schools are very expensive for OOS-ers; I wouldn’t think this would come as a surprise to anyone…</p>
<p>They are coming up with $46,000 because they are including summer session in this number.</p>
<p>gregj135…</p>
<p>On the one hand, you argue that Penn State (a public school) should give more to students in the form of grant money, based on need and/or merit, like other schools do (you example…Princeton).</p>
<p>On the other hand, you also say that these private schools do this, even though they are not obligated to do so.</p>
<p>I agree that in many cases, due to need based financial aid, a private school (such as Princeton, or for that matter, Yale or Harvard) may cost the student significantly less than their posted tuition rates, and also, less than an OOS Public University.</p>
<p>However, consider that a Public University’s first job is to provide a quality education to state residents, and therefore keep their tuition low. The cost to OOS students, as far as tuition goes, is the REAL cost the a Penn State Education. Every time Penn State builds a new building, with more research labs, better facilities, etc. it increases the value of the that Penn State Education.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, the State of PA (more specifically the Governor of PA) just cut Penn State’s Appropriation of Funds (which goes toward offsetting IN STATE Tuition)…IN HALF. They are trying to make up for this (because, as I state earlier, their primary mission is keeping IN-STATE tuition low) by increasing the cost of OOS tuition (among other things).</p>
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Really? I wasn’t aware that PSU had announced it’s OOS tuition rate for THIS year. Where did you find the information on why and how much THIS year’s OOS tuition was going to be?</p>