Does anyone know anything about Case Western's PPSP?

<p>Hi guys!
So i may be just totally incapable, but I cannot seem to find any reliable information on the program at Case.
Does anyone know what the GPA maintenance req. or if there's an MCAT requirement for the program?</p>

<p>I have spent few minutes just googled.
You might need to spend a bit more time to verify if this info is up to date.</p>

<p>it might be old info, but here it is:</p>

<p>Notes for students in the Pre-Professional Scholars Program (PPSP) in Medicine

  1. Students in the Pre-Professional Scholars Program in Medicine are expected to complete the requirements of the Case School of Medicine - generally by including the courses listed on pp. 4-5. Any major is fine.
  2. Admission to the Case School of Medicine is assured for students applying at the end of three years with a total AMCAS GPA and AMCAS BCPM GPA (Biology, Chemistry, Physics and Math) of 3.6 or higher, and an MCAT total score of 32 or higher if the MCAT is taken. The MCAT is not required for the PPSP but is required if you are to be considered for some large scholarships at the Case School of Medicine.
  3. Students in the PPSP are expected to show continuing outstanding personal development, including, but not limited to, maintaining academic integrity.
  4. “AMCAS GPA” refers to the average as it is calculated by the American Medical College Application Service. If a course is repeated, both grades count in the average (even though only the new grade counts on the Case transcript). Grades from courses taken at other US colleges and universities are also included in the AMCAS GPA even though they are not included in your Case average.
    the link was <a href=“http://www.cwru.edu/provost/ugstudies/AdviceMedFall05.pdf[/url]”>http://www.cwru.edu/provost/ugstudies/AdviceMedFall05.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>^As a personal input, you will NOT get scholarship for MCAT=32, you will NOT get it for 35 either, even if you have GPA=4.0 and have ample of various medical and non-medical EC’s, enough for couple applications for sure. So, I would advise not to take MCAT. Getting over 35 is extremely rare, although it is pssible. However, risking of having lower than 32 is not advisable.</p>

<p>I agree, Case Western is such a good program (and Cleveland Clinic is nearby), why would any one want to waste time taking MCAT? Just try to do well & enjoy 4 years of college and consider youself blessed that you have secured a seat already.</p>

<p>“Getting over 35 is extremely rare, although it is pssible.”</p>

<p>According to AAMC, 6.1% of the MCAT takers scored 35 or higher in 2011. </p>

<p>Yes, it is not easy, but I would not call it “extremely rare”.</p>

<p><a href=“https://www.aamc.org/44826/search.html?q=mcat+percentiles+2011&x=0&y=0[/url]”>https://www.aamc.org/44826/search.html?q=mcat+percentiles+2011&x=0&y=0&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>The mentality and spirit of pursuit at CASE facilitates 35s !! It comes with their fabric of excellence and personality…they do not how to do it OTHERWISE…great community</p>

<p>hi everyone! I’m currently at CWRU and in PPSP. we need to maintain a 3.6, and score a 34 or higher on the MCAT to keep our spot- if we choose to take it. I’ve talked to the other PPSP-ers and it’s unanimous that we love Case and are definitely staying here for med school so we just won’t take the MCAT. I’m so glad I ended up coming here so please feel free to shoot me any questions about PPSP or any other BS MD program. I haven’t logged on in months but I’m going to respond to everything in my inbox later today. Best of luck to the class of 2013!!! :)</p>

<p>I find it an unusual DARE for the powers that be to pose a"34"! They are asking students who are very smart, tenacious, organized and certainly aware of the downside of a bad day at the MCAT to jeopardize their position? I wonder aloud why…</p>

<p>^The reason is that they do give Meri scholarships. Since “outsiders” posses a certain MCAT score to get Merit scholarship (higher than 35), then they are obligated to ask to an MCAT score of those who are considered for Merit award. But you are free to choose. If you do not take MCAT, then you are not considered for Merit scholarship. I would never advice anybody to take MCAT that is required to be a 34. 6% is extrememly low. Many who have GPA=4.0 are very happy with the 34+, to get over 35, you got to be exceptionally gifted test taker in addition to being very hard working person. Very hard work will not insure exceptionally high MCAT score despite the fact that it most likely to insure your college GPA of 4.0.</p>

<p>@tropixxx I also think the motivation for that MCAT score is to discourage students from leaving PPSP program and moving away. By keeping that condition, I think even smart students who could score that high, will not be tempted to take that risk.</p>

<p>@ferredoxin thanks for your kind offer to help. Cpl of questions (i) does CWRU give liberal merit scholarships to PPSP students during undergrad? (ii) is biomed engineering too tough to maintain 3.6 average?</p>

<p>makes sense…they put all thru the WRINGER to get into the program…why would they give you the opp to leave. Guess they know exactly how to manage the harem !!</p>

<p>Case used to give uncredible Merit awards. PPSP or not is not important. You have to be accepted to Case, and their FA office decides on Merits. My D. recieved $27K / year but it was about 6 years ago, she ended up attending a different UG.</p>

<p>I personally do not think that they care too much who is staying and who is leaving. Their pool of applicants to Med. School is beyond imagination. It includes PHD and Masters in Science from very top Grad. schools, lawyers, graduates from the very top elite UGs in the country. Believe me, they do not care to hold to their PPSPs, but they need an equal footing when they give out Merit awards. So, they are saying, it is your choice, we take you, but we do not want to consider your MCAT score. So, please, consider it only if you are looking for Merit awards. Apparently they are looking forward to give out as many awards as possible to attract the very top applicants as they particularly in competition for them with Northwestern Feinberg School of Medicine. They do not want to spend this precious $$ on PPSP kids who already are in.</p>

<p>I got an email from CWRU stating that decisions will be posted on Jan 26th around 12 PM. I can already feel the rejection coming@@@@@@@@</p>

<p>no sanguinee! dont loose hope. every college is different.</p>

<p>^ lol I was rejected pre-interview to easy programs like dmsp, uab’s emsap, , vcu gap, and umkc! i really doubt cwru will give me an interview</p>

<p>every college is different. after the initial screen of grades, gpa and test scores, the essays come into picture and then the extracurriculars. At this stage it is a matter of fit for that specific college. SO the concept of easy and hard college is not correct and even i was doing that before. ultimately it comes down to “who would fit” after the screening of academics is done. So, u still have hope. All the best</p>

<p>i hope so then lol. what have you gotten interviews/gotten into so far?</p>

<p>S has 4 for now… will see how it goes</p>

<p>oh you’re a dad (or mom), cool. your son is lucky! good luck to him.</p>