Does UC San Francisco Accept A Lot Of Premed Students From Berkeley?

Pre-Med & Medical School Pre-Med Topics
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<p>If I Work hard at berkeley as a pre-med student, is it possible that there can be a good chance I can go to UC San francisco? I heard it is a pretty good medical school and they give some preference to UC Berkeley and stanford graduates.</p>

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<p>No. Berkeley, with 9000 undergrads per year, sends about five of them to UCSF.</p>

<p><a href=“http://career.berkeley.edu/MedStats/top20.stm[/url]”>http://career.berkeley.edu/MedStats/top20.stm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>UC Berkeley won’t even give you a good chance at medical school, period, much less a top-5 institution. UCB despite having brilliant students by national standards barely outperforms the national average in admissions percentage.</p>

<p><a href=“http://career.berkeley.edu/MedStats/national.stm[/url]”>http://career.berkeley.edu/MedStats/national.stm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Notice: 68 admissions to medical school.</p>

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<p>Yeah, but people from CAL still get to medical school. It is not because CAL is hard. Name One Other Premed Program like it in CA</p>

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<p>Well, yes. I specifically pointed that out to you. I assume this wasn’t what you intended to say.</p>

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<p>Impossible, because UCB has no organized “premed program” :rolleyes:</p>

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it’s possible, well anything is possible.

yea it is pretty good :rolleyes:</p>

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nope</p>

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<p>MB: While it’s possible, the OP asked about a “good chance.” I don’t think 5 in 9000 counts as a good chance.</p>

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<p>o i misread, i thought the opt asked if he/she can get in.</p>

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<p>BD, from the link you gave, the (5) is the ranking of UCSF Medical School. They have accepted close to 50 UCB applicants from 2002-2007.</p>

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<p>Berkeley has sent 33 – not close to 50 – students to UCSF over the six year window. That works out to an average of 5.5.</p>

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<p>Which school sends more undergrads to UCSF?</p>

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<p>From earlier links…
[Career</a> Center - Medical School Statistics](<a href=“http://career.berkeley.edu/MedStats/national.stm]Career”>http://career.berkeley.edu/MedStats/national.stm)
[Career</a> Center - Medical School Statistics](<a href=“http://career.berkeley.edu/MedStats/top20.stm]Career”>http://career.berkeley.edu/MedStats/top20.stm)</p>

<p>“Each year profiled includes December, May and August UC Berkeley grads (e.g. 2006 includes December 2005, May 2006 and August 2006 graduates) who released their AMCAS information to UCB. This report includes only the seniors who applied the summer before their last academic year at Cal.”</p>

<p>This seems to leave out many applicants.</p>

<p>50 UC Berkeley students to UCSF may be correct between 2002-2007.</p>

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<p>Anything’s possible, but we’re speculating. The students who get into UCSF – very talented undergrads – tend to be the kind who will report to AMCAS. It’s the students who don’t have things together who will tend to skip the self-reporting, either through carelessness or for whatever other reason.</p>

<p>We don’t know anything beyond this, but I suspect the self-reporting makes Berkeley’s numbers look better, not worse.</p>

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<p>I don’t think so, bluedevilmike.</p>

<p>I would love to bet on 50 compared to your number. :)</p>

<p>It’s not just the amount of people that are reporting that makes the numbers inaccurate when figuring out how many students end up at UCSF from Berkeley. It’s all the students that don’t apply after their junior year but apply later.</p>

<p>If, that number is just 1/3 of Berkeley applicants and they get in at the same rate as those that apply after their junior year, you’re at 50.</p>

<p>[UCSF</a> School of Medicine - Admissions](<a href=“http://medschool.ucsf.edu/admissions/profile.aspx]UCSF”>http://medschool.ucsf.edu/admissions/profile.aspx)</p>

<p>The average age of matriculants at UCSF is 24 so it looks like a little more than half the matriculants are gettting in when applying at different times than just the end of their junior year. (depending on the definition of average).</p>

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<p>Even assuming arguendo that you’re correct, that brings our average up to about 8 kids per year. Still very bad odds.</p>

<p>You can see from any elite school’s data – Duke is a good example – that the seniors are the strongest applicant pool; it drops rapidly from there.</p>

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<p>The odds of getting into UCSF from any school are pretty poor.</p>

<p>Duke has a pretty strong student body.</p>

<p>And its in the south, the students probably want to go to medical school in the south or the east…but how many Duke students end up at UCSF? ;)</p>

<p>And how many schools send 8 kids to UCSF a year?</p>

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<p>What percentage of Duke students that go to medical school go right after college?</p>

<p>I’ll answer my own question.</p>

<p><a href=“http://premed.duke.edu/wp-content/uploads/2007-annual-report.pdf[/url]”>http://premed.duke.edu/wp-content/uploads/2007-annual-report.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Looks like more Duke applicants to med school apply a different year than the one right after their junior year. More get into med school too.</p>

<p>Hmmm… if this holds true for Berkeley…8 a year might be low. ;)</p>

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<p>Absolutely agreed.</p>

<p>Let me take a look. Duke has been having a very bad two years since our advising team departed.</p>

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<p>Found the data.</p>

<p>In 2007, five acceptances and one matriculation to UCSF. </p>

<p>Accepted students are split 50-50 between straight-through and alumni applicants. The straight-through pool is much stronger; I suspect all five acceptances are from that pool.</p>

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<p>My guess is that the gpa and MCAT scores are higher for those that apply after junior year than those that don’t. However, my guess is the life experiences are better for those that don’t apply after junior year.</p>

<p>So those that apply later than the end of junior year might not do quite as well, percentage wise, in getting into medical school, but they do ok.</p>