Doing a PhD in the USA

<p>Hi all,</p>

<p>New member here. I'm currently gathering as much info as I can with regards to doing a PhD in the USA, particularly in California as to my knowledge there are a number of highly regarded technical institutions there (Caltech, Berkeley, to name a few). I'm mostly interested in doing a something akin to a biotech program (to be specific, I'd like to get into visual prosthesis). </p>

<p>I'd like some first hand opinions on how the application process looks like for a foreign student (I'm a British national, with 2 MSci degrees), as well as what the PhD program in the US looks like. From what I seem to have gathered so far, regarding finances, to be able to earn a living whilst doing a PhD involves being both a research assistant and a teaching assistant? What exactly do these entail?</p>

<p>I'll be doing to California at the end of next month hopefully to meet some professors/doctors face to face and talk about the issue, I hope this will help!</p>

<p>Thanks in advance</p>

<p>P.s. if this thread is in the wrong section then please move it accordingly.</p>

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It’s extremely unlikely that you’d get funded as an RA <em>and</em> as a TA concurrently. Usually they are meant to be stand-alone funding. </p>

<p>What exactly they entail depends on your specific positions. TAs might give lectures, hold recitations, lead lab sections, grade homework or hold office hours. It might be anywhere from 5 hours to 25 hours of work per week, depending on the norms in your department. RAs are even more variable. Ideally an RA position would pay you to work on your dissertation (if your own research interests align with the interest of the professor funding you) but you could also get an RA position to do someone else’s work on top of your own.</p>

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You take a couple of courses, pass your qualifying exams and write a dissertation. Details vary by department. The typical time to a PhD in the sciences and engineering seems to be 4-6 years.</p>

<p>In USC you can get both TA and RA depend on your interest, theoretically each position takes you around 20 hours per week but in fact time varies a lot, and each position funds you $1,200 per month, for Biostats program. I’ve seen less funding in other programs.</p>

<p>*It’s extremely unlikely that you’d get funded as an RA <em>and</em> as a TA concurrently. Usually they are meant to be stand-alone funding. *</p>

<p>Not universally true; depends on the field and the program. Both of my departments fund people as TAs and RAs concurrently. Many programs require you to do both either at the same time or some time during your degree.</p>

<p>The application process for an international student looks pretty much the same as a US national, with the exception of the visa application process at the end.</p>

<p>You shouldn’t look only at CA schools; pick a PhD program based on research interests.</p>

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This is true, although it largely depends on how the hours work out - most schools limit any given person to X hours (usually 15-25) per week of “work” while a student, so to do an RA and TA simultaneously usually means a “quarter-time” appointment in each. Bear in mind of course that actual hours worked can often be significantly more than the department officially allows, and when you have two different bosses (one for RA, one for TA) you might easily get buried.</p>

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Even if they don’t this has become a common expectation for those with aspirations to academia - being a TA shows that you have some nominal preparation to teach, and an RA is generally crucial as a minimum to show that you were a valued student (fellowships of course being superior).</p>

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Depends on what you mean by “earn a living”! At most schools, putting in the maximum hours possible as a TA will still not bring you above the poverty line - it is better in engineering and sciences than in the humanities, but it is still not much money to live on. Some schools cap RA salaries to similiarly drab levels, others allow the advisor to set the remuneration individually (within limits). In both cases there may be graduated salaries depending on your experience and qualifications.</p>

<p>As a warning, be very clear on the nature and rules regarding tuition waivers - while engineering and science departments are usually pretty good, some still have “assistantships” that are really just hourly work with no tuition waivers. Others may waive tuition only to a certain point - perhaps just the in-state portion, still leaving you with thousands in tuition each semester. This is not tremendously common, but you should still watch for it.</p>

<p>As another warning, make sure you understand how funding is awarded and when/how it is announced BEFORE taking an offer! Some departments will award assistantships up front, others will leave you in some sort of limbo from which you may never emerge, and others will simply expect you to pay your own way the first year or two, or may cap you at Y years of assistantship before making way for someone else. Just be clear - I received admission to UT Austin in ECE, and while I WAS told that I had my choice of 1 TA or 2 RA positions, I was ALSO told that the actual pay for those positions would not be set until August - four months after they expected me to accept!! Not knowing whether I would get $13k or $34k per year meant I went somewhere else.</p>

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b@r!um covered the TA part pretty well - basically anything that needs to be done, you might be asked to do it. If the professor knows you are interested in an academic career (or is busy or lazy) you might see nearly every aspect of teaching a course, including writing exams or co-authoring course notes. If/when you demonstrate advanced skills, you may simply be the instructor for the course - as long as you have a masters degree you can teach, and some advanced PhD students do just that!</p>

<p>As for being an RA, I should note that most professors will expect your actual RA hours to represent work above and beyond what you need for your thesis. Hopefully it inspires your thesis, supports your thesis, and improve your publications and credentials for when you graduate, but expect to spend these hours helping him/her to write grants, write/edit papers, edit textbooks, work on their projects, supervise “lesser” lab students, assist other grad students with THEIR theses, etc. An RA where you have no responsibilities other than your own thesis is really just a misnamed fellowship.</p>

<p>That having been said, please note that there are other options as well. Some schools have “graduate assistantships” or “GA’s” where you get paid and get a tuition waiver but assist in more administrative roles - don’t ask me for details, I have seen them listed but don’t know anyone who has had one. Also, the apex of the funding ladder is a fellowship, which may be awarded by the department, the college, the university, or an external agency, and which (as I noted above) gives you the money and the tuition waiver without generally requiring that you do any (or at least much) work for it - these are usually much more prestigious and pay pretty well (my fellowship offer was $35k/year for 5 years guaranteed), but are often awarded based solely/mostly on GPA and GRE scores (or other widely-comparable things). Plus, the most famous and common fellowships are awarded by the US government and are generally available only to US citizens.</p>

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<p>Most of my non-TA time hasn’t had explicit time requirements to do those sorts of things; I had always thought they were just expected of all grad students.</p>

<p>That said, I have had terms where I was only a half TA (or less). It usually winds up happening when you’re TAing upper-level/graduate classes, and there’s not enough students to reach the minimum number required by the school/division to pay for a full TA. It really sucked one term where I was TAing an eight person grad class I had never taken and was only getting a quarter TA out of it.</p>

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Not in my experience - I have external funding and have had two advisors, neither of which even asked me to do any of that. I was told to focus on my own research, even while they handed out assignments left and right to the RAs. Heck, I’ve been volunteering time on some projects just so that I can stay involved with the lab group!</p>

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<p>Students who aren’t on assistantship legally can’t be expected to do anything other than their coursework and their own research. It would be tantamount to unpaid labor.</p>

<p>I guess it might just be the way our group is structured. When you join you basically start an apprenticeship with a more senior graduate student (since we have so much equipment it’s really impossible to learn it on your own without someone teaching you everything). This is something even students on fellowships do out of necessity.</p>

<p>I guess since the rest of us aren’t on fellowships it’s probably categorized as RA duty, although I’ve never been told “this is your duty as an RA” since I have to do that stuff while I’m TAing anyway.</p>

<p>Things might just be different at my school since they tend to like being different for the sake of being different, too. =/</p>

<p>Hi everyone,</p>

<p>Thank you very much for your advice! Apologies for the late reply but work has kept me very busy, and I tend to forget certain things when I have a hectic timetable. It seems that the duties and timetables related to TA and RA positions can differ widely! I suppose I will find out more soon enough.</p>

<p>I’ve contacted a few universities in California regarding this and I hope to speak to some people face to face when I come to Cali at the end of the month (8 days holiday but I intend to visit some universities while I’m out there!).</p>

<p>I’m just confused with one thing for the moment. How can a TA and RA position (assuming one does both) potentially demand up to 20 hours each (as written by ynchris) if I am to find time to do my own research?</p>

<p>You work more than 40 hours a week :)</p>

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That’s why most decent programs will offer you enough money on a single job, so that you don’t have to work two. </p>

<p>By the way, as a foreign student, your student visa will not allow you to be employed above 20 hours/week. If you know that you wouldn’t be able to live on a standard funding offer, then don’t apply there.</p>

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Aside from b@r!um’s note on your legal obstacle, it should be noted that most schools will limit you to a ~20 hour commitment anyway (this is called a half-time appointment, btw) to avoid the overloading you note. This could be a half-time appointment as an RA or TA OR quarter-time appointments (i.e. 10 hours a week) each as an RA and TA simultaneously.</p>

<p>Just be aware that the hourly commitment is nominal, and most professors really think of it in terms of work output, and this can easily lead to overloading. If you only have one advisor then it should at least be managable, but quarter-time appointments with 2 different professors can be dangerous, as each will overload you without regard to what the other is tasking you with!</p>

<p>Also remember that in choosing your TA and RA gigs it is always best to find overlaps with your research, so that as much of your work time contributes to your thesis as possible!</p>