Don't be afraid to rank the QB liberal art colleges

<p>The QuestBridge liberal art colleges are the most underrated partner colleges in QuestBridge. Understandably, few students rank them because they either don't know about the school, or they worry that others don't know about the school.</p>

<p>While liberal art colleges are relatively unknown by the general public, they are highly regarded by top employers, graduate schools, and competitive fellowships- at a level close to that of the Ivy League. Especially the top ones like the ones in QuestBridge. In terms of PhD production, Carleton and Oberlin produce more per capita than Yale or Stanford. According to Payscale ratings, Williams and Swarthmore are a better investment than Brown or Yale. According to a list of competitive fellowship winners by schools, Williams, Pomona, and Swarthmore are represented in the top 10 among any school in the country. And you'll see that by and large students from these schools get accepted to the best graduate programs in the country. Even in more direct factors, the QB liberal art colleges usually have more undergraduate research available per capita, greater endowments per capita, better financial aid, and more racial and socioeconomic diversity than the QB universities.</p>

<p>The great thing about liberal art colleges, especially the QuestBridge ones, are that they're an extremely diverse group, scattered all around the nation with completely different personalities. Some are more deeply focused in academics, while others are more pre-professional. Some attract a particular kind of student, while others emphasize diversity. Some are small (700 students), some are big (2700 students), some have the small feel with big resources (consortium of 8000-30000 students). There will most likely be a liberal arts college among the 18 or so that fit your needs.</p>

<p>Of course, this brings up a point- what even is a liberal arts college? And what is the value of a liberal arts college that you can't get with a university?</p>

<p>A liberal arts college is not liberal or artsy. The term liberal arts originates from liberal arts education, which is an education that focuses on depth of knowledge. If you are interested in the Ivy League, keep in mind that they have the same education, so if this factor turns you off, you should not be considering most of the QuestBridge universities either. The difference between a liberal arts COLLEGE and a liberal arts UNIVERSITY is that a liberal art college overwhelmingly produces undergraduate degrees, whereas universities can have multiple schools, like med school, law school, engineering school, etc.</p>

<p>There is a beauty in going to a place that emphasizes undergraduate experience. And not just mostly (like Rice and Princeton), but fully. Here are some benefits:
- You will not have to compete with any graduate students for opportunities on campus like research or work.
- Every single penny (or mostly every single penny) of the school will go towards making the experience as great for the undergraduates as possible. LACs have some of the most supportive administration in the country.
- You will be taught by distinguished professors, all of whom have significant research background (as they completed PhDs from the nations' best programs), and only by professors. You will never be taught by a TA. You will never have to break up into separate problem sections by TAs. And the amount of individual attention you'll receive is unparalleled.
- Have I mentioned professor accessibility? This is huge. As first generation students (most of you), you need the guidance of those who have experience. The professors at an LAC are so supportive and nurturing. This is not exclusive to LACs, but it is more noticeable.
- Your classes will be smaller and be more impactful in your overall growth. You will be pushed, challenged, and given much individual feedback.
- You will have a much more flexible curriculum which emphasizes that you find your exact passion and contribution, as well as cultivate new ones.
- You will be taken care of, given much advice and perspective if you fall back, loved and appreciated by all of the students for your successes, and in general be a part of a more intermingled community. Again- not exclusive to LACs, but more noticeable.
- You will enjoy a richer residential life. This is especially significant if you're an out-of-state student, as just about everyone lives on campus.
- You will interact with your peers more, many of whom are distinguished in one way or another. You will make friendships that truly last a lifetime, and transcend racial and class lines. University experiences are more independent.
- You will usually enjoy a more active alumni network. LACs have really strong alumni participation, better than universities on a per-capita basis.
- You will enjoy a career development office and graduate fellowship office that is more personalized and available, as they are more staffed and have less students to have appointments with.
- Your classes will not be grade deflated, and your peers will be collaborative, never cutthroat</p>

<p>There's probably a lot more, but in my opinion, a liberal arts college provides the best college experience, especially for those who are low income and first generation. The college transition is tough, and many of you do need the nurturing aura to make the best possible experience.</p>

<p>I urge you all to deeply explore the wonderful QuestBridge liberal art colleges and maybe find new options that you may thrive in even more.</p>

<p>Loved this post. S hopes to apply to QB (College Prep in spring). D got a state opportunity program with much lower financial cutoffs so on the economic part we will probably be eligible. Not sure about final selection since there are so many students in need, but it’s worth a try!</p>

<p>S has a 100 average (W), will have takn 10 APs by graduation, self-studied a 5 in Euro Hist. PSATs on first take were 710 CR and 690 M but Math is actually his best subject, he didn’t have time to finish. Hopefully this month his scores will be even better.</p>

<p>My question is about the best studio art programs at LACs. S did AP Art sophomore year (only year it would fit in schedule) got a 5! Has rec’d scholarships each year since 7th grade to a really good local art school, started figure drawing in 8th grade. Is now trying is hand at sculpture. Loves Dutch masters, favors more traditional stuff but is eclectic enough to appreciate lots and lots of stuff. Interesting because he doesn’t reject modern/abstract but doesn’t go for it only because it is modern/abstract. More into painting than photography but also likes computer / graphic / 3d stuff.</p>

<p>Art at universities is easy – Yale and Brown are easy to name-- but admissions are so competitive! Besides the prestige is not as important as a great art dept and, like you point out…Questbridge schools are ALL big names!</p>

<p>Could you tell me anything you know about studio art particularly at the LACs? We already have Wesleyan and Williams (of course) on the list. His other passion is Math, also loves history, hence the liberal arts approach or a dual degree BFA/BA. If he had to choose one or the other it would be the BA. He was chosen for one of 18 spots nationally for a Math Camp at Williams.</p>

<p>So even if we could afford art school (which we can’t, even with a partial scholarship), he doesn’t want to go to art school only. </p>

<p>I really appreciate any informed advice on visual arts at QB LACs. You obviously know the program well and I would love to hear more.</p>

<p>momcino, for art at QB uni’s, Columbia is up there with Yale and Brown. Tufts has an art program with [School</a> of the Museum of Fine Arts | SMFA Boston](<a href=“http://www.smfa.edu/]School”>http://www.smfa.edu/). WUSTL not a QB school but has a very strong art dept and meets 100% need. For QB LAC’s definitely add Oberlin, Hamilton and Vassar. Well known working artists have come out of the Claremont Colleges, esp Scripps (but you have a son!)…nostalgicwisdom is at Pomona, I think, so he can speak to the fine art departments there. If you are looking at LAC’s outside QB, Bard and Kenyon should be on the list and give good FA. Skidmore and ConnCollege always come up in discussions of doing studio art at LAC’s but their FA probably as robust as QB partner schools. If your S can get into Williams and likes the school culture, its rural setting etc. that might be a no brainer :)</p>

<p>Thanks honeybee! And back to OP’s original intention, LACs on the QB list are definitely worth looking into for low income students. The quality of attention and the smaller atmosphere with personalized advising can leverage kids who will really benefit from the contacts, internships, alumni networks etc.</p>

<p>Absolutely agreed! If you look at the schools that QB kids rank it is almost always the top uni’s and they might add in Amherst or another LAC for fun. I really really wish more low income kids knew abut the LAC’s as they benefit so much from everything you mentioned and admissions are not quite as crazy (not quite). I think for a lot of these families esp first gen they have only heard of HYP et al, thus the draw. Nostalgic’s post should be added to the QB website!</p>