Don't Tase me bro!

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<p>By your logic, it's also everyone's "first amendment right" to yell "Fire!" in a crowded theater.</p>

<p>What he did was not within his rights; according to the rules of the forum, being able to speak was a privilege, not a right. Not to mention the disruption he caused.</p>

<p>Naturally, someone who breaks all these rules will be asked to leave. This is what the police were trying to do (they even stopped when Kerry told them to let him speak), but after his behavior showed he was not capable of respecting the rules and environment of the event, the police started escorting him out (again, peacefully).</p>

<p>Are you telling me it was his "right" to resist them? They tased him because he was resisting being escorted out, and it was the least painful and safest way to do so. What if he had a gun on him? Or a knife? A bomb? Nowadays, these are serious considerations as well. Police will not and should not risk their own safety or the safety of other students because you're crying about this kid's "rights". </p>

<p>What about the rights of the several hundred people in attendance? You seem to forget about them. They have a right to speak (more than the kid, because they respect the rules) and to be able to attend an event without this kind of disruption.</p>

<p>I seriously cannot believe you're siding with the kid that much.</p>

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I will beat the crap out of you if you try to assault me, attack me, or take my money, or anything else that I own. I don't care if you're the police or the president of the united states, if I'm being attacked wrongfully, I have the right to self-defense. Don't think of government as above the law.

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<p>Yeah, I'm sure you would :rolleyes:
Second, you had better be damn sure that you ARE being arrested wrongfully before you resist, or you will be in a world of hurt, legally, physically and financially. People get too much of what they think the law is by watching TV (and yes, that includes the "news") and movies. The average person hasn't actually tried reading the actual laws or relevant legal cases.</p>

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Likewise, I don't care if you're some rentacop hired by the university

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<p>Way to show your ignorance yet again - most public universities have fully trained and sworn POLICE OFFICERS, with all the training and authority of any other cop. </p>

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And since when was it a crime to speak when asked to shut up? You have a first amendment right to speak, even when told to shut up, and the rest of the country has the right to tell you to shut up.

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<p>It isn't, and that's not why he was arrested. It is, however, a crime to tresspass on someone else's property, and that IS what he was arrested for, and for resisting lawful arrest. Its that simple. And if you think public universities have no right to kick people off their campus, you might want to recheck the facts of that one. Public universities have just as much legal right as any private university to decide who is and who isn't allowed on their campus or in their functions.</p>

<p>But please, do go ahead and resist arrest and scream about the "abuse of power" and scream like a girl when you get tased. I'll still be laughing and clapping as I watch you ride the edison medicine on the evening news.</p>

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<p>I'll still be laughing and clapping when the cops go on the news complaining about how they got fired.</p>

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<p>futurenyustudent--your ignorance of how the law and your rights work is amazing. Good luck with that--you'll need it. <laughs></laughs></p>

<p>FFB--care to wager on that?</p>

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<p>you know what i was thinking while watching the video???</p>

<p>he's actually really cute :D....</p>

<p>(lol sorry i just had to. take it as me trying to "lighten the mood")</p>

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<p>nm.............................................................................</p>

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<p>Denzera, have you ever tried to restrain someone who doesn't want to be restrained? Being and EMT/firefighter I've had to restrain medical patients, suicidal people, and drunks in order to get them in an ambulance. If you think that 4 adult males, even well-built police officers, can easily restrain a single person, you are wrong. A person that does not want to be restrained can put up a hell of a fight, enough for 4 people to warrant more backup.</p>

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<p>I'd love to be the one putting up that fight like the underdog! The underdog fights all swinging wildly in all directions while the police can only use non-lethal force to pin him down and must be carefully not to hinder the others on their team. That skirmish would have been even more interesting if it had taken place in a narrow hallway, and I have a feeling the underdog would have an advantage since he could fight one by one. But since he was on a stage he'd need to do some crazy roundhouse kicks, and try not to be surrounded...Anyone here study martial arts have anything good to say about reasonable tactics he should have used? You never know when the police will try to try to subdue you unjustly...what's the best method to fight back when attacked from all sides on a stage?</p>

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<p>Right...because you think I'm actually going to kick someone's ass when they have guns. If the president mugs me, I'll just sue him into the next century.</p>

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what's the best method to fight back when attacked from all sides on a stage?

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<p>Step 1: Raise both hands into the air
Step 2: Remaining in that position, lay on the ground
Step 3: Comply with any orders given to you by the nice gentlemen with the guns pointed at you and who have backup on the way.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65zXlytv01c%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65zXlytv01c&lt;/a>
Pay close attention to Step 1 in this video -- "you probably won't get your ass kicked if you just use common sense"</p>