double majors

<p>Is it possible to double major in computer science in the college of letters and science and business in the undergraduate program in haas?</p>

<p>yes - though the term you’re looking for is ‘simultaneous degrees’ since they’re in two colleges. look it up on L&S’s advising page.</p>

<p>^ thank you</p>

<p>Haas’ information on simultaneous degrees:
[Simultaneous</a> Degrees, Undergraduate Program - Haas School of Business, University of California Berkeley](<a href=“The Business Administration Major Simultaneous Degree Information - Undergraduate Program - Berkeley Haas”>The Business Administration Major Simultaneous Degree Information - Undergraduate Program - Berkeley Haas)</p>

<p>Haas’ degree requirements:
<a href=“http://www.haas.berkeley.edu/Undergrad/pdf/requirements_for_degree_F12.pdf[/url]”>http://www.haas.berkeley.edu/Undergrad/pdf/requirements_for_degree_F12.pdf&lt;/a&gt;
Note: 38 units of upper division business courses are required. Also, must graduate in 4 semesters after admission to major.</p>

<p>L&S CS degree requirements:
[Undergraduate</a> L&S CS Students | EECS at UC Berkeley](<a href=“CS Major Information | EECS at UC Berkeley”>CS Major Information | EECS at UC Berkeley)
Note: 27 units of upper division technical courses, including at least 6 CS courses.</p>

<p>Economics 101A or 101B may substitute for UGBA 101A or 101B in the Business major and qualifies as a [non-CS</a> upper division technical course for the CS major](<a href=“http://www.eecs.berkeley.edu/csugrad/tech_electives.shtml]non-CS”>CS Major Upper Division Degree Requirements | EECS at UC Berkeley). UGBA 103 and some other UGBA courses also count as non-CS upper division technical courses.</p>

<p>Assuming a one course overlap, you’ll need to take at least 61 units of upper division Business and CS courses, out of 120 units needed to graduate.</p>

<p>For other requirements, you’ll need to take:</p>

<p>CS: Math 54, CS 61A,B,C and 70, EE 42 (6 to 8 courses, depending on where you start in Math).
Business: UGBA 10, Economics 1, Statistics 20 or 21 (4 courses; CS Math requirements should fulfill Business Math requirements).
R&C: up to 2 courses, depending on AP English credit, if any
[L&S</a> 7 course breadth](<a href=“http://ls-advise.berkeley.edu/requirement/7breadth.html]L&S”>http://ls-advise.berkeley.edu/requirement/7breadth.html): You may get 3 or 4 from the majors, leaving 3 or 4 to take.
AH&I, L&S FL: if not fulfilled in high school, additional courses
American Cultures: be sure that something somewhere is such a course</p>

<p>It would be a tight fit to cram all of this into a 4 year (8 semester) schedule. You may have to take some overload semesters. If you have scores of 5 in AP Calculus BC and AP English Literature, or equivalent community college credit for Math 1A,B and English R1A,B, you’ll shave 4 courses (16 units) off the requirements. In any case, you’ll need to plan carefully and make sure that every course you take fulfills some sort of requirement in order to avoid delaying graduation.</p>

<p>^How many classes a semester are we talking about?</p>

<p>Most courses are 4 units; some are 3 units, and a small number are 1, 2, 5, or 6 units.</p>

<p>So a typical normal course load of 15 units per semester is about 4 courses per semester most of the time. However, some courses are more work than their units indicate (typically those with labs, lots of computer programming, or large term projects), while other are less work than their units indicate. If you find out which courses are which, you may want to avoid taking too many “heavy” courses at once, or take fewer courses / units when you have more “heavy” courses and more courses / units when they are all “light” courses.</p>

<p>So far I have passed the English Lang. Chemistry, US history ap tests with fours and the Spanish with a five. This year I am taking the english lit, micro Econ , and calculus bc tests. Assuming I pass these tests how many classes does this get me out of?</p>

<p>English Lang gets you out of the first R&C course. Chemistry gives you some units but doesn’t get you out of anything in your majors or breadths. US history gets you out of the university-wide American History requirement (but not the L&S Historical Studies requirement). Spanish gets you out of the foreign language requirement.</p>

<p>If you get a 5 in English lit, you’ll get out of R&C entirely, which is a REALLY good thing, so try to do it. I’m not sure about micro econ… maybe Econ 1? You should check. Calculus BC will get you out of Math 1A and 1B if you get a 4 or 5 (you can then start on Math 54 directly).</p>

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<p>[Haas</a> AP credit policy here](<a href=“Application Process - Undergraduate Program - Berkeley Haas”>Application Process - Undergraduate Program - Berkeley Haas)</p>

<p>Summary of your AP credit applied to CS and Business majors:</p>

<p>4 on English Language = first half of Reading and Composition
4 on Chemistry = nothing (AP cannot be used to fulfill L&S or Haas 7 course breadth, but you’ll get Physical Science from CS 61C anyway)
4 on US History = nothing (unless you need it for AH&I)
5 on Spanish = foreign language requirement</p>

<p>English Literature => get a 5 to fulfill second half of Reading and Composition
Economics => get a 5 on both micro and macro for Economics 1
[Calculus</a> BC](<a href=“http://math.berkeley.edu/courses_AP.html]Calculus”>http://math.berkeley.edu/courses_AP.html) => get a 5 to skip Math 1A and 1B and go directly to Math 53 and/or 54 (but self study some differential equations material before taking 54); get a 3 or 4 and you are allowed to skip Math 1A and go to Math 1B, but the Math department suggests that some students may want to start over in Math 1A.</p>

<p>Would you consider getting these simultaneous degrees extremely difficult? On a scale of 1-10, 10 being suicide.</p>

<p>6 to be honest, if you want to simult w/ haas, you need a good gpa. to get into the undergrad program you need a fairly decent gpa; for jr/sr recruitment, gpa is pretty important to get into interviews. if every one around u is vying for a high gpa, then naturally it would be harder (all things equal) for you to get a relatively high gpa compared to your haas peers if you decide to have a simultaneous degree in a known-gpa buster major, say EECS or MCB or things like this. </p>

<p>there’s a conflict of interest there.</p>

<p>usually people pursue a simultaneous degree to enrich the value of each degree. I just feel that if you get a mediocre GPA just to get the simultaneous degrees, it’s not worth it. besides, many people can break into business without an undergrad biz degree, why not just focus on your CoC EECS/L&S CS interests? it’s a strong degree even without the haas degree. there’s nothing wrong with “just” one degree. but choose for yourself.</p>

<p>jack of all trades; master of none.</p>

<p>I think if you want to do CS and Haas simultaneous degree then you should try to get as fast a headstart on CS pre-reqs. This is because Haas is A LOT more upper-div classes to take than other majors. Other majors usually consist of something like 5 core upper-div + 3 electives for a total of 8 upper-divs. Haas has like 10 core classes + 2-4 elective classes. So if you just follow the normal CS & Haas progression then you would be taking something like 3 Haas classes + 2 CS upper-divs, which can be pretty brutal for most people.</p>

<p>It is possible to double but I would caution against going against this route…like others said, usually simultaneous degrees are done to supplement one another and may have common courses together say for example, econ & haas. </p>

<p>Focus on your interests and do well in what you’re passionate about… a business degree and a CS degree may seem like its impressive but I would argue it’s not when your gpa, stress, social life etc is at risk. In the grand scheme, esp. in the post-undergrad world, experience and skill is often looked highly upon job recruitment. Having a business or CS degree for the heck of it (ie. to make resume impressive) isn’t very fruitful.</p>

<p>What about an Economics degree instead of business administration?
Would one breadth requirements fulfill the ones for the other?</p>

<p>Perhaps an alternative plan to target several well paying jobs and careers (e.g. software development, quantitative finance, actuarial) would be to take as many of the following courses as possible (majoring in one of the subjects):</p>

<p>CS: 170, 162, 169, EE 122, 186, 161
Economics: 101A, 101B, 136, 103, 141
Statistics: 134, 135, 153
Math: 104, 110, 113, 185, 128A</p>

<p>Of course, such a plan requires that one enjoy math and be good at it.</p>

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<p>Economics may be easier to fit into a double with CS, since it requires fewer courses. If you like math and are good at it, you may like the greater mathematical content of some Economics courses like 101A, 101B, 136, 103, and 141, compared to courses in Business.</p>

<p>I enjoy math and am pretty good at it. If I pursue degrees in Econ and CS, do I have to take two different sets of breadth classes or will one satisfy the requirement?</p>

<p>With both majors in the College of Letters and Science, you need to fulfill each breadth requirement once. And some of them will be automatically filled by the majors – for example, CS 61C fulfills the Physical Science requirement, and any Economics course fulfills the Social and Behavioral Science requirement, leaving you with 5 of the 7-course breadth requirement to take (some optional CS and Economics courses can fulfill some of those, although at most 2 courses from any one department can be used for the 7-course breadth requirement).</p>