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<p>yeah I remember reading this in the BDH awhile back. Can a Brown student comment on how the school feels about this?</p>
<p>Brown? Probably very welcoming!</p>
<p>yeah I was just wondering if they were mostly ambivalent or actually had any feelings on this.</p>
<p>Brown loves it! They admitted him because they want him.</p>
<p>uh admissions and the lax coach wanted him. that's not really the same thing.</p>
<p>Uhhhhh, the LAX team at Brown wants him, as do practically all athletes..... The community at large is probably mixed. Some care, some don't.</p>
<p>how do you know that?</p>
<p>Cause I know Brownies--LOTS of them. </p>
<p>Do you even go to Brown?</p>
<p>Ivy do you?</p>
<p>Most of my friends were unhappy about it, but I don't care at all personally.</p>
<p>No I don't go to Brown (I thought that was implied by my question) and I don't purport to know how the student body feels. Which is why I asked a current student to comment, not someone to generalize based on a small sample of opinions. It's hard to gauge campus response when you're not on campus. Btw do all your Brown friends like being called Brownies?</p>
<p>Thanks for the response modest. Are people unhappy b/c they think he is guilty or for some other reason?</p>
<p>Well we're Brunonians, typically, not Brownies, and I've never heard a Brown student use Brownie. Not that I care...</p>
<p>My friends mostly took the opinion that even though he was pretty clearly not guilty of rape, he was still in this huge trashy party situation and clearly was morally, "suspect". And it's one thing to admit a student and do certain thigns that stay private, but to even be someone who doesn't have the judgment not to be in a situation where he's going to get accused of raping a prostitute/stripper what have you than he probably isnt' that great of a person. Add that to the headache you'll have with parents, alum, press, etc and the fact that as an athlete he'll be held to a higher standard since he's supposed to be a representative of the university at other schools (which many of our athletes don't take to heart, others do), and you have a situation in which there is no compelling reason to admit him.</p>
<p>To me, I think it's ridiculous what that DA did to them, I thnk it's terrible that people assumed guilt before they were proven to be so, and I think that the world and society should give him a second chance.</p>
<p>But I think that second chance should be at his own school and in his own neighborhood. Had the world turned their back on him it would not have mattered if his school and community stood behind him, they're the people who should have known better and have done him wrong, the rest of us are bystanders caught up in a stupid media blitz. So really, he should walk into Duke again with his head high and Duke should be hanging their heads low, IMO.</p>
<p>However, he chose not to do that, so who am I to stop him from having an opportunity for a second chance? I'm not thrilled it's in my backyard, I still htink his character is suspect, I still don't think this benefits Brown the way some other transfer student might have, but it's a reality, and I know it won't directly affect me in any way.</p>
<p>Well, whoever's reading this can form an opinion on whether or not the campus cares based on modestmelody's friends or mine. Same difference.</p>
<p>The pretentious lot love to call themselves "Brunonians". The rest, Brownies, if anything. At least in my understanding.</p>
<p>Ivy-- the pretentious lot refer to themselves in someway. The rest of us don't ever call ourselves anything. The only people I've heard using Brunonians are older alums. Current students rarely do anything to refer to themselves and there is rarely something that is singular enough that "Brownies" feel that way about it.</p>
<p>The closest thing to something like this you'd hear in a conversation is whether something is, "Brown". That is mentioned a lot. Brunonian vs. Brownie I've never heard outside of alums on Brunonian and people on this board.</p>
<p>Also, many of my friends are athletes, and their opinions range from not caring to thinking that Brown athletes have a bad enough rep that they don't need this as well. My friends are baseball, gymnastics, and track, though, whihc may be different than someone who is friends wiht say, football and basketball.</p>
<p>TITCR, modestmelody.</p>
<p>I love the fact that the DailyJolt is back...</p>
<p>modestmelody, what bad rep do Brown athletes already have?</p>
<p>I'm not a Brown student, but I don't see why this should be much of a problem. Yes, he was in a bad situation that could've been avoided by just knowing to avoid stupid parties involving strippers, but to say that he should've known that he could be faced with rape charges, just because strippers attended the party, is beyond fallacious. Come on now, it's not like every single stripper accuses someone at the places they strip at of raping them. </p>
<p>Is it morally incorrect to go to such a party? That's probably a relative question. But did he do anything that is truly wrong? No. He was put through hell as a result of false allegations and a lack of support from the community. I don't see how that is reason to be unwelcoming of his presence at Brown.</p>
<p>I can't speak for Brown athletes, but athletic recruits in general have a rep for being under qualified and overly privileged. So it's hard for many of them to overcome the "dumb jock" stereotype even though at elite schools like Brown it's generally not accurate.</p>
<p>oh noes! is it brunonians or brownies?? </p>
<p>brown sounds like a lot of fun...</p>
<p>whaltimore, I can tell you read the thread. I mentioned it one way, and since this is a site dedicated to information on schools, I felt I should be accurate.</p>
<p>As for reputation, the football team and most especially the football frat, have a bad reputation for being meatheads and that sometimes bleeds over to other teams. Most people don't actually think much about the whole athlete thing, but as there is at most schools, there is always some stigma associated with it.</p>
<p>I agree with you, Dave. I'm jutst saying how some friends felt about it.</p>