<p>Yale EA deferred rates for class of 2008 were published in the alumni newsletter. Class of 2009 were also made available.</p>
<p>You shouldn't pick a school for early accpetance based on which one you think you have a better shot at. It sounds like your interested in only a name. I can tell you that this strategy completely defeats the purpose of ED. It is for people who are die hard about going. You seem to be die hard about a title on a certificate. You should have good reasons for applying ED (i.e. specific programs or things of that nature) and be 500% sure of your decision. Yale and Stanford couldn't be more different location, campus, and general student body wise. I'm having trouble seeing what your reasoning is for going to either. If you go through education just trying to get a great named school, you're eventually going to find out how much it doesn't matter.</p>
<p>I certainly wouldn't apply to Yale because it's an Ivy. That is a ridiculous and hollow reason, especially when the other school in question is Stanford, which is overall more academically respected than, at least, 5/8 Ivy schools. I don't understand why so many seemingly smart people have it in their heads that the eight Ivy League schools are 1-8 in academic superiority in the country.</p>
<p>I'm not trying to be pedantic but gellino-you just contradicted yourself.</p>
<p>Believe me, it's not like I don't care so much about the actual schools and am just trying to figure what is the best name I can get into. </p>
<p>I think I mighta been a little unclear, but in my list of schools, Yale and Stanford are my ultra-reaches...I realize that there is a very, very small chance I'll get into either of them and that's fine. </p>
<p>My point is that I plan to apply to both of them. I am just trying to figure out what is the best strategy to do this. I have talked to alot of people about both of these schools (current students and alumuni) and I really like what I hear. </p>
<p>I consider Yale and Stanford equals in terms of prestige, and it's not like I'm trying to choose one, because I probably won't have that choice. ;) I'll be lucky to get into either. I just wanted some advice on which one is more advantageous to apply early to. </p>
<p>It seems like most of you said Yale, and I think I overall find Yale to be more attractive. Does graduate school legacy count for anything? (I know not much but it does ask for your parents graduate schools on both applications) Cause I have some at one of the schools and I've heard that legacies, along with athletes and URM's, are the ones most benefitted by applying early</p>
<p>halopena, I don't understand your point. I was merely stating that Stanford (for one) is widely considered a better school than many of the Ivys. How is that contradicting myself? That was my point.</p>
<p>You were saying that it is shallow to rank schools, but then ranking Stanford yourself.</p>
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halopena, I don't understand your point. I was merely stating that Stanford (for one) is widely considered a better school than many of the Ivys. How is that contradicting myself? That was my point.
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right behind HYPM in most polls</p>
<p>Really? You are not reading polls correctly.</p>
<p>Stanford. You'll love it in Cali.</p>
<p>The 10 "most selective" schools according to the 2007 USNews formula</p>
<ol>
<li>Harvard University (MA)</li>
<li>Yale University (CT)</li>
<li>Massachusetts Inst. of Technology</li>
<li>Princeton University (NJ)</li>
<li>California Institute of Technology</li>
<li>Columbia University (NY)</li>
<li>Washington University in St. Louis</li>
<li>Stanford University (CA)</li>
<li>University of Pennsylvania</li>
<li>Brown University (RI)</li>
</ol>
<p>2007 USNEWS Rankings!
1. Princeton
2. Harvard
3. Yale
4. CalTech
MIT
Stanford
7. Penn
8. Duke
9. Columbia
Dartmouth</p>
<p>HARVARD again named world's top university (new 2006 Shanghai rankings) </p>
<p>1 Harvard Univ
2 Univ Cambridge
3 Stanford Univ
4 Univ California - Berkeley
5 Massachusetts Inst Tech (MIT)
6 California Inst Tech
7 Columbia Univ
8 Princeton Univ
8 Univ Chicago
10 Univ Oxford</p>
<p>Newsweek's top 20 most global universities:</p>
<ol>
<li>Harvard University </li>
<li>Stanford University </li>
<li>Yale University </li>
<li>California Institute of Technology </li>
<li>University of California at Berkeley </li>
<li>University of Cambridge </li>
<li>Massachusetts Institute Technology </li>
<li>Oxford University </li>
<li>University of California at San Francisco </li>
<li>Columbia University</li>
</ol>
<p>Hey ... don't I get a credit??</p>
<p>Yale will get you marginally better access to top jobs upon graduation. And you will meet more rich people.</p>
<p>Stanford has a much nicer culture, based on my impression... more relaxed, students don't take themselves nearly as seriously as they take ultimate frisbee, etc. You'll probably enjoy it there more.</p>
<p>Stanford might be the only school I wanted to go to more than I wanted to go to Columbia.</p>
<p>-Steve</p>
<p>How about Harvard EA opposed to Yale and Stanford EA?</p>
<p>Bump...I'm trying to figure out the same thing.</p>
<p>I wasn't saying it was shallow to rank schools. You have to make a decision somehow. I was saying ranking something as automatically better because it was an Ivy is shallow and inaccurate.</p>
<p>bandit_TX,</p>
<p>So your list shows Stanford is behind ONLY Harvard in most polls, not "HYPM".</p>
<p>getting back to the original question, are both schools "huge reaches" for you because your SAT's fall below the 75%? Or less than stellar gpa? Or? In other words, based on how incredibly competative it is these days, is it worth it to limit yourself to applying SCEA to either school, if you don't have 2350 and up SAT's 4.0 gpa, etc. If they are huge reaches, you may want to think about applying EA to colleges where you have a better chance of early acceptance in Dec. Just a thought, based on the recent experiences of many fully qualified students who tried the SCEA card, and were left with dissapointment.</p>