<p>NO ONE IS STEREOTYPING ALL EAGLE SCOUTS ARE GREAT!!!! We are saying though that the experience in leadership and service most likely adds something more to you than the average person. In fact when you enter the army or any service you always start out 1 rank ahead... AND ONCE AGAIN SOME MERIT BADGES ARE OF COURSE EASY AND SOME ARE HARD BUT THEY ARE THERE TO TEACH YOU A VARIETY A HUGE VARIETY OF SKILLS THAT YOU WOULD MOST LIKELY NEVER EXPERIENCE. GO CHECK OUT THE NUMBER OF MERITBADGES AND THEIR REQUIREMENTS, THEN YOU WILL SEE!!. WWW.MERITBADGE.COM; AND ABOUT THE HIKES PEOPLE WERE TALKING BOUT EARLIER. ANY HIKE IS NOT EASY B/C IT IS USUALLY PRETTY ROUGH TERRAIN IT ISN'T WALKING AROUND IN A FREAKIN' MALL ALL DAY, SO YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER THAT. BOY SCOUTS ONLY BARBECUE B/C THEY NEED FOOD DANGIT, IF YOU WERE ON A CAMPING TRIP, HUNGRY, I THINK YOU WOULD BARBECUE TOO!! </p>
<p>A LOT OF YOU IN THIS THREAD ARE SOO IGNORANT, I GUARANTEE YOU IF YOU TALKED TO ONE EAGLE SCOUT THEY WOULD FIRST LAUGH AT YOU FOR WHAT YOU ARE SAYING THAN GET PRETTY ANGRY!</p>
<p>O Yea And Eagle Scouts Prolly Have More Pride Than You Will Ever Have!</p>
<p>well im from the south and we dont spell our 'que "barbecue"</p>
<p>I was just screwing around with the barbecue/barbeque thing...regional differences...that's not the point at debate here.</p>
<p>"For example, i know a kid who organized a food drive (thats a pretty sorry project) I raised over a thousand dollars to construct a 250 foot picket fence around an old cemetary with a concrete walkway. It dosn't seem fair to me, but that is the way it goes".
So a food drive is a sorry project?? My son did a food drive for his Eagle project and collected over 2,500 pounds of food in our garage. He then worked with his friends to sort, box, deliver, and unload it at our local pantry (filling empty shelves due to the lack of food drives in the summer). Overall, the project took over 100 hours of work from his team. This is sorrry? Sounds like you did a nice project - but it's really quite rude to insult the efforts of others - especially fellow scouts.</p>
<p>I agree with toneranger, don't judge a scout on what you percieve of their eagle project, theres always something more too it, that you prolly don't consider... Furthermore you do an eagle project not to just get it over with and get your rank but to benefit the community as much as you can. If constructing a 250 picket fence is something that satisfies yourself giving back to the community.. but for another person a food drive does just the same. stop comparing eagle project b/c most of you have never done anything to the like</p>
<p>The cabinet I mentioned hardly helps teh community since a local church refused to accept it, and it is lying in dumps.</p>
<p>Yes sai, it sounds like you know some pretty PATHETIC Eagle Scouts - but don't let your limited experience lead you to believe that all fall in that category. Your area must have some very weak scout leadership. Too bad. There are plenty of impressive Eagle Scouts out there who have worked hundreds of hours to complete the requirements and have learned important leadership and survival skills. It's not enough to put Eagle Scout on your resume for college admissions - you have to back it up with what you did and learned. Even so, I don't think it makes a huge difference in the admissions process for elite schools. I believe they prefer school based leadership positions. Speaking from experience here....</p>
<p>I don't think I have limited experience, really. I've seen plenty of troops at work. I think that depending on the region, there can be a very large group of slackers (even if it is still less than 50%) that achieve Eagle Scout rank. So I think it's wrong to say stories like Sai's are an insignificant minority...b/c they seem to happen in quite a few places.</p>
<p>If one thing can be said, I admire Eagle Scouts because they /do/ have to put up with a lot of crap. Scouts is definitely seen as "uncool" and to stick with it for 10 yrs despite the social stigma is impressive. It means it means something to you. For the record I always kinda wanted to be a boyscout. But I learned at early age that 1.) I'm a girl, I'm too cool for that and 2.) put a bunch of boys together and they act like retards.</p>
<p>I learned that a close friend of mine was a Venture Scout pretty recently. And I got really jealous...for, like, a second.</p>
<p>:P</p>
<p>And I got really jealous...for, like, a second
golden...
other scouts have tried to start venture crews in my troop jus cuz that = camping with girls and it never turns out lol i wonder why</p>
<p>I actually would like to be a scout, but local scouting options seem somewhat mediocre. I am looking for something that will teach survival skills and possibly do some strenuous hiking or hill running.</p>
<p>does your school have a Wilderness Adventure Club? or something like it? ours only does ski trips but urs might do camping...</p>
<p>whoever says eagle scout is a boring EC is wrong! It takes so much effort to become an eagle scout and also time...</p>
<p>all the people who critize eagle scouts and say they are "rude" and its just a "stupid EC" are just jealous that they weren't eagle scouts!</p>
<p>^^Toneranger:
I was just trying to appeal to the opposing argument by providing an example of waht i deemed a "sorry project." I am sorry for being maybe to judgmental, but you don't know the circumstances...so don't judge me yourself. A 100 hour project sounds great...although it seems a bit small. I am not trying to be high and mighty here, i just think some projects don't demonstrate what the eagle rank is all about. So don't take offense to my comments. But seriously why don't you examine your own comment before you try to knock down the validity of mine. And nmehta4: i totally agree. But a project that satifies the individual does not mean the project was worthy of the rank. And whoever the moron is who said 60 miles in 10,000+ ft. elevation in 8 days is easy has no clue. A 40 pound pack (1/4 of my weight) is no light burden. I doubt you or the rest of fat america could accomplish that feat without some serious "practice" or "training." You just sound ig'nant dude!</p>
<p>bobdylan - OK - I think we're on the same side here. Most Eagle scouts we know deserve the recogniton although there are some slackers. Sorry if you thought I judged you - thought your project was great but your comment on the food drive was tough to take given what I saw my son go through on HIS food drive project (it lasted over three months and required lots of hard work and planning - plus was of very high value to the folks in our community). But perhaps the guy you know collected a few cans and called it a day - all food drives are not the same. Just like all fences are not the same...</p>
<p>10,000 ft + elevation is nothing severe.</p>
<p>You do not feel the real effects until around 15,000 ft. And you only walked around 7 miles a day. Even with a 40 pound backpack, that really is nothing. I sometimes have to walk to school (around 2 miles away) with a 25-30 pound backpack (crammed full of books and binders, I weighed it before) and it only takes around 40 minutes to walk it. That hike is a joke.</p>
<p>^toneranger:</p>
<p>Well said...i totally agree...all eagle projects are not the same. But i think what it all comes down to is if your project passed the board of review, which I assume it did...therefore i have no right to judge...sorry!</p>
<p>sai2004^^</p>
<p>said like a true moron. untill you've done it, you can't pass a judgment. and by the way...mt. whitney is something like 14,000 feet which is classified by the "travel doctor" as very high altitude. 10,000 is said to be high altitude where sickness begins. Check your facts pal. Also, what is your point? 40 lbs. for 8 days at 10,000 ft. plus, is a hike. its not everest, but it is still tough. I had a buddy on the varsity water polo team fall short of whitney due to altitude sickness. it effects different people in different ways. by the way...what physical activities are you involved in that qualify your opinion as the "authority?"</p>
<p>I've been to some pretty high mountains (5000 meters or so) in china before and had to go on foot walking the entire day (at least 10 miles). True, my burden was 20 lbs lighter, but the conditions are not as pleasant as Whitney. (38 degrees celcius with the usual jungle humidity)</p>
<p>Aryans males such as yourself tend to overrate their physical power. True they have size, but do they have strength or endurance?</p>