<p>Yep, just eyeballing, it looks like the admit rates in the early round are very similar to last year’s.</p>
<p>@mathmom – the % of deferred MIT applicants admitted during RD was far lower last year. 164 of 4711 deferred applicants were admitted via RD, or approx 3.5%. Of those RD apps not deferred from EA, 5.8% were accepted.</p>
<p>As @xiggi noted, 612 were admitted via EA last year vs 625 this year. An additional 835 were admitted via RD, including those deferred from EA.</p>
<p>Looking at the 2013 CDS, it appears that 1115 freshmen enrolled Fall 2013, so figures do not match up with above admission stats for class that enrolled this fall.</p>
<p>It looks a lot like the world, or much of it, is migrating towards a model where they fill about half of their class with early admissions. It used to be more like 30-40%, but I think everyone has been creeping up. Northwestern used to have a 25% limit, and that’s long gone. Stanford isn’t getting quite 50%, since 743 is only 45% of its available slots, but I bet that yields more than 40% of the class. Brown is the clear exception, admitting only about 37% of its class ED. Georgetown and MIT are probably also exceptions; they admit enough applicants EA to fill more than half their classes, but it’s unlikely they get a high enough yield from the EA offers to generate that many enrollees. But they’re close.</p>
<p>I understand why MIT is careful with its EA admits. It must get a ton of RD applications from really strong candidates who applied SCEA to one of HYPS</p>
<p>I would not think there would be too may cross applicants between Yale and MIT.</p>
<p>@CT1417, not everyone admitted to MIT enrolls there, so there’s no discrepancy.</p>
<p>@PurpleTitan – well aware. I should have been more clear. I was trying to say that I quoted enrolled counts from Fall 2013 CDS and accepted counts from Fall 2014 admission stats sheet.</p>
<p>Edit: I found Fall 2014 enrollment so now the reporting periods align. 1043 freshman enrolled Fall 2014.</p>
<p>@HarvestMoon1: Kids, like ours, in the BS pool and those in the northeast are very familiar with the top LACs; outside that those circles, not as much.</p>
<p>Other posters have also pointed out the cost factor associated with the LAC’s. Think this is another factor. I think the state flagships in other regions of the country seem to attract a lot of applicants for obvious reasons.</p>
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Really? What would stop an applicant there who was shooting for all those alphabet soup top schools?</p>
<p>@Pizzagirl re: Goldman vs. J.P. Morgan - amen!</p>
<p>@JustOneDad - is that what applicants do? I think if one looked at my D’s list of schools it would be pretty obvious where her interests lie. Guess everyone has different objectives.</p>
<p>@Harvestmoon1, our neighbor’s dc was admitted to both Yale and MIT a few years ago, and chose MIT.</p>
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I still don’t get what your angle is. Is there some reason you don’t consider Yale and MIT in the same category? Competitive applicants will apply to a number of the most selective universities to increase their chances of getting in one.</p>
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<p>It depends in which group you place Brown for a comparison exercise. There is little difference between Brown, Cornell, and Dartmouth, as an example. Here is one way to look at the numbers for the Class of 2018 (compiled before summer melt and waitlist movements) </p>
<p>Ivies Admit Enroll Est % Early
Brown ED 583 1,500 38.87
Columbia ED 650 1,400 46.43
Cornell ED 1,325 3,200 41.41
Dartmouth ED 469 1,100 42.64
Penn ED 1,299 2,400 54.13</p>
<p>Harvard SCEA 992 1,700 58.35<br>
Princeton SCEA 714 1,300 54.92
Yale SCEA 735 1,300 56.54
Total Blended Ivies 6,767 13,900 49% </p>
<p>Other Schools 2018 Admit Enroll Est % Early
Duke ED 797 1,700 46.88
Northwestern ED 925 2,000 46.25
J. Hopkins ED 526 1,300 40.46
Stanford SCEA 748 1,700 44.00 </p>
<p>Although not comparable, Chicago’s EA is probably at 100 percent. For the class of 2016, Chicago exceeded 100 percent by admitting over 1500 students in its early round. </p>
<p>If one decides to use an attrition percentage of 2 to 5% for ED and 20 to 25% percent for SCEA and anywhere between 40 and 70 percent for EA, the numbers are conflating. </p>
<p>You must have interpreted my post incorrectly JustOneDad. It really was just an honest question - no angle. When we crafted a college list one major consideration was our child’s area of interest and what she intended to pursue as a major. When I think of MIT I think of heavy STEM interest. While Yale certainly offers majors in those areas it would not be the first school that comes to mind for STEM kids. But yes, I do think Yale and MIT are in the same category as far as being strong academic institutions. Likewise MIT would not be at the top of my list for a child who wanted to pursue the arts, psychology or a career in foreign service.</p>
<p>When I looked at my D’s Naviance which has a section on “overlap” applications for MIT, the most common overlap schools were Princeton, Cornell, Penn, Stanford and Carnegie Mellon. This makes sense to me.</p>
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<p>I believe MIT admits the same percentage of EA applicants that they would expect to admit in the regular round based on their presentations I have attended, just to say that they don’t give you preference for applying early.</p>
<p>So the 9% admit rate is expected to be their overall admit rate this year.</p>
<p>You know, applying to both MIT and Yale certainly would have seemed strange to me when I was applying to colleges 20 years ago, but it certainly does seem as if top HS students these days (at least the ones on CC) are either more calculating or prestige-hungry, depending on how you want to look at it.</p>
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<p>@xiggi - I thought Yale had a larger class size (1500 or 1600?).</p>
<p>I believe Harvard expects to convert about 93% of SCEA applicants and Stanford is close to 90% or more. Princeton and Yale are probably closer to 85% but I have not seen exact numbers.</p>
<p>Are there any announced numbers for SCEA schools?</p>
<p>@xiggi just got notificaiton from a HS GC. the EA rate for chicago this year was roughly 9% which is 0.09 x 11,000 = 990 students, if we assume a 80% early yield that’s 790 students, which is 790/1420 = 56% of the incoming class. </p>
<p>@neweducation: a 80% yield rate for EA admits seems very high for the UofC. Last year, they had an overall yield rate of 60%.</p>
<p>In any case, it seems that @xiggi’s info on the UofC is a tad out of date.</p>