<p>Race might be an issue in college admission, I don't think anyone is arguing otherwise, but please do not assume that every URM student got in on account of his or her race or is below caliber. That is more racist.</p>
<p>I didn't mean that student integrity or quality is sacrificed. I meant the integrity of the process. Sorry if I came off seeming otherwise.</p>
<p>Sorry if it looked like I was implying that Knguyun got his acceptance based on his race, i just meant in general.</p>
<p>Likewise, I have to wonder if son's participation in the Intro to Engineering session as pre-college after junior year of HS helped him in admittance. He is NOT a URM, but did attend and had great scores and grades. I tend to believe that it did help--it showed interest from someone who is not a legacy or URM. I think I remember that he mentioned attending in his personal statement, as well as some of the professors he met while attending. Just something to think about!</p>
<p>I think shown interest should play a role in the admissions process though. That is something he wanted to do. It's not like he's just reaping the (sometimes unfair) rewards of something he had no control over like race.</p>
<p>Oh no, not another AA debate</p>
<p>You're right there shouldn't be a debate, AA is wrong and there is no defense for it</p>
<p>I believe that there is nothing wrong with AA. What the college is doing is giving a chance to students who not necessarily do, but might, have lesser opportunities than the other kids. Hence they have to be judged not on par with the rest but on how far they have made use of the limited opportunities which came their way. Just because they are less well off doesn't mean they don't deserve to attend a good college.</p>
<p>They deserve to attend a good college if they have the credentials to get in, not because they are a different race. If by lesser opportunities you mean less money, and lower quality of secondary education why aren't the same advantages given to lower class white applicants?</p>
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<p>Either socioeconomic situation needs to be an admission factor, or the admissions process should be race-blind in addition to need-blind. I'd prefer the latter.</p>
<p>So, Columbia kids are getting their decisions back now... makin' me jealous. 4-6 days...</p>
<p>Mombot: Yes, Holy cross is a Liberal Arts school but they also have a 3:2 engineering program which you spend 3 years at holy cross then another 2 at either columbia or darthmouth and get an engineering degree. they also have an economics degree which would fall under the business category.</p>