<p>maybe i missed it? what offer? I don’t see any guaranteed offer to attend HYorP.</p>
<p>^^ agree. One would have to ask how many kids went to camp last summer? Five were admitted, but if there were even 6 campers, one wasn’t. I think this is a great sign, but no more than an invitation for the coach to get a good look at the athlete, gauge the athlete’s interest by whether he attends, and work to win him over if he’s at the top of the pile.</p>
<p>No offer to S. Rather an offer referenced to a 2011 athlete who attended the camp last summer. The five 2010s recruits are standard practice. Offers announced, accepted, and likely letters sent in the Fall. What is different from past practice is the extension of an “offer” to a 2011 athlete during his junior year in this sport. This offer has not been publicly announced, but is being reference by the coaching staff. Only prior publicly referenced offer to a junior bball player in recent memory was this past fall to a junior at Northfield Mt Hermon from Brown. Curious as to whether other Ivies are mirroring this practice.</p>
<p>i’m still not getting it. bunches of athletes are made “offers” their junior year. an offer is the coach saying i want you and i’ll support you aka LL and if you’re accepted you’ll be on my team. my d received a couple from ivies around april of her junior year. </p>
<p>are you suggesting the ivy coach promised or guaranteed acceptance to a junior?</p>
<p>pacheight, agree completely with what you’re saying. It’s an offer with qualifications, and obviously the coach is probably making this kind of offer to a few more kids than he can actually take, knowing some of them won’t have selected his school as their first choice, and that some kids won’t get by admissions.</p>
<p>Maybe it varies sport by sport. Heretofore, one did not see an Ivy publicly acknowledging an offer to a junior (September of the junior year) with this kind of publicity. In the past, it has been reserved for the senior year after the likely letters are sent and received. The point is that this kind of exposure creates problems for the coach if in the normal admissions process, the candidate cannot pass muster.</p>
<p>Why would the coach expose himself and his future recruiting credibility if there was not some kind of early pre-vetting procedure. Not to imply that admissions is not fully in control of this process, but something different is going on here, at least in basketball. Previously, coaches would declare admiration and fully support, but a public offer and verbal commitment hitting the press in this way are new. Or at least, recent. Amaker in his first recruited a kid, Frank Ben Eze, out of Virginia in the Fall of his senior year. High profile, high impact player. He could not get past the AI hurdle. Since, these discussions are much lower key and private. Maybe the ante has been raised and this is necessary, but it raises questions about heightened and earlier levels of admission support.</p>
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<p>bball, this is confusing to me, too. Maybe the kid’s academic stats are already impeccable. I guess if that changed by the time admissions got a look at the file, the coach could always blame the player’s academic slip for the change in commitment.</p>
<p>^^Haha…not impeccable. But it’s okay. This school sends many, many basketball players to the Ivy’s every year. Big-time connection here. You may be confused, riverrunner, but bottom line is athletics has a lot of pull with the admissions office. I’ve noted numerous times that my older son’s friend went to the same school (from the same prep school) to play basketball with a 900 SAT. My younger son is friends with Joe. He verballed before he had ever taken an SAT. He will be going. I know this school well - they are asked early and they all go. There is never a disappointment.</p>
<p>You can be confused; you can be in a state of disbelief/denial, but this is how it plays out in certain sports - even at the Ivies.</p>
<p>There are different rules for coaches contacting potential student athletes who play basketball and football then for other sports. This is because these two sports seem to be more profitable (thus more important) then other ones. </p>
<p>I’m not sure the rules for recruiting for these two but I am very familiar with the recruiting rules for all the others. The best way for a prospective student athlete to contact a college coach is to email them, best to do so before May of their Junior year. Coaches can only talk to the athlete about their program if the athlete sets up an official visit in which he talks with the coach on campus. If the athlete and the coach meet outside of the official visit/off campus they can only have a brief greet and are not allowed to talk about recruitment. If a coach is interested in you, expect a call on July 1st after Junior year. From here on they can call an athlete once a week to talk about their program and recruiting while the athlete can call the coach as often as they want.</p>
<p>Hwpolo is right. The Ivies adhere to the NCAA rules for basketball regarding contact. These are</p>
<p>June 15 prior to Junior Year
One phone call per month is allowed. Aft</p>
<p>Sorry - Accidentally hit send</p>
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<p>Hwpolo is right. The Ivies adhere to the NCAA rules for basketball regarding contact. However, no signing of a LOI applies. The rules for basketball are:</p>
<p>June 15 prior to Junior Year
One phone call per month is allowed.
Recruiting materials may be sent.
During Junior Year through July 31 prior to Senior Year
One phone call per month
Starting August 31 prior to Senior Year
Two phones per week
Official visits can begin the first day of prospects classes
Off-campus contact can begin Sept 9
During Senior Year
Sept. 9 – Oct. 5: Contact period
Oct. 6 – March 31: Evaluation period at games - no contact
Nov. 11 – 18: Early signing period for LOI
April 14 – May 19: Regular signing period for LOI</p>
<p>Based on what I’ve read on this board, this is earlier and more contact than many sports are allowed.</p>
<p>There are only so many slots that an athletic program has at an Ivy for help with admissions. I was offered a spot in June and committed in the middle of July. The head football coach explained how the AI works and that they can take 30 total athletes and there are 4 bands that you must fall into. The 4th band can take the most [these are athletes with a strong AI - strong SAT scores, grades or class rank], the 3rd can take a fair number and the 2nd and 1st take few and are for athletes that the school really wants, but would never have a shot at regular admissions. I received my likely letter in the middle of October and it states the letter holds the same weight as an acceptance letter.</p>
<p>The process is so totally different for football and basketball at the Ivies than sports like track, cross-country, and swimming, where the last minute (Junior spring and Senior autumn) times are crucial, and the students’ academics stats are usually much higher.</p>