<p>Right now, if I had to apply for next year, I would most likely apply ED for Brown. It is probably my #1 school and the one I love the most. I know it would give me a slightly better chance, and this is why I would apply ED. But, the binding thing would be a little risky. I'd be thrilled if I got accepted, absolutely, but in the off off chance maybe I got into Olin's College of Engineering, that would be kind of harsh, giving up an opportunity like that.</p>
<p>ED triples your chance of acceptance.</p>
<p>If you love Brown, apply here. I would definitely check out other colleges if you want engineering, Brown is very good at it but not the best.</p>
<p>I don't really want Engineering, I'm more looking at Physics and Math.</p>
<p>try caltech</p>
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ED triples your chance of acceptance.
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No, it doesn't. It might give you a bit of a nudge, but definitely not triple.</p>
<p>RD rate at Brown was 12% i believe.
ED rate was 34%.</p>
<p>you do the math.</p>
<p>Yeah, but you have to remember, college admissions are not random. They require a bit of luck, but not everyone is weighted equally. You get a little nudge from ED, but not triple. ED is very helpful at top schools but not the ultra elite schools. Schools like Brown will give you a bit of a nudge, but schools like Stanford and Harvard won't. They know they can fill in better students during the EA given their high rates of matriculation.</p>
<p>bobbobbob, that's correlational, it proves nothing.</p>
<p>It is widely known that ED and EA applicant pools are self-selected, therefore some of the strongest candidates are in these rounds. You will get somewhat of a nudge, but nothing near 30+%, the reasons the percentages are so much higher are because of the quantity of quality applicants in the ED pool.</p>
<p>definitely not tripled, but it does give you a nudge and for a school like lets say cornell it actually gives you a decent push... I think its fine to apply ED to an ivy because they give good fin aid and it gets rid of the worry faster</p>
<p>I think the RD would have a higher number of qualified applicants - if they know they can get into Brown they wouldn't need the extra 'push.' </p>
<p>Ex: Perfect student (4.3 GPA, 2400 SATs, leader of 20 clubs, etc.) applies to Brown ED (binding!) when he could easily get in through RD. Why would he do that? </p>
<p>And yes it does triple your chance of getting into Brown if you look at numbers only. The Self-Selection argument isn't valid since you don't know which year has more 'self-selection.'</p>
<p>Believe what you wish... correlational data is deceiving.</p>
<p>"the reasons the percentages are so much higher are because of the quantity of quality applicants in the ED pool."</p>
<p>Yeah, that's why schools like Duke and Penn openly admit to ED being easier, with god knows how many others only pretending it doesn't. Where's this "data" you keep talking about that shows ED students are stronger?</p>
<p>Just compare the ED and RD accepted threads on the forum. The ones accepted during ED are not that much different than those accepted from RD. I never said it wasn't easier during ED, but saying you have a 3 times better chance is just being naive. No admissions officer at an elite school is going to accept underqualified applicants just because they applied ED. They'll give a little more leniency to pump up the yield rate, but as the saying goes "When in doubt, defer 'em out." Ok I kinda made the last part up, but, hey, it's catchy :)</p>
<p>By the way, this is what I'm thinking of applying wise. Remember, I'm shooting towards majoring in Physics/Mathematics.</p>
<p>Brown (ED) [reach]
Colgate [high match]
Cornell School of Arts and Sciences [match]
Lehigh [match]
Bucknell [low match - safety]
Swarthmore [reach]
Oberlin [match - high match]
Olin College of Engineering [highest reach]
Wesleyan (maybe) [high match]
University of Chicago [high match - reach]</p>
<p>And a couple more, I have to add a couple more safeties. Other schools I'm considering but who knows: Duke, Hamilton, Columbia, Dartmouth, Amherst, Williams, Weselley, Harvey Mudd (would never happen, parents don't want me going that far)</p>
<p>I would only suggest applying ED anywhere if -
1) You're in love with a particular school and are absolutely sure you want to go there
2) You're financially secure enough where you don't need to worry about the aid package you receive from that school</p>
<p>I'm not sure which of those schools, if any, are Early Action, but that's a possibility. You can get your options together early if you're still not quite 100% decided on a particular school.</p>
<p>I considered applying ED to some schools, but I knew I couldn't commit to a financial aid package if it wasn't sufficient. I'm also a little indecisive, so I ended up applying to 12 schools; I liked having a few options when I made my final decision. (I'll be at Wellesley in the fall.)</p>
<p>Correlation does not prove causation</p>
<p>ED is overrated - there are plenty of ways to show interest. The only time you should apply ED is if you know for certain that if every school you're applying to accepted you - you would still definitely go to Brown.</p>
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RD rate at Brown was 12% i believe.
ED rate was 34%.
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Athletes and legacies typically apply early. Plus, the rest of the early pool is usually more self selecting.</p>
<p>Again, slight nudge, but not triple.</p>
<p>Fandandolya, if you want physics or math, liberal arts colleges are not for you. Amherst, Wesleyan and Oberlin graduate abotu 5 science majors per class.</p>
<p>If no LACs, fit me, than what schools do?</p>
<p>Brown, Colgate, Cornell, Lehigh, Bucknell, Swarthmore, Olin College of Engineering, University of Chicago, Duke, Columbia, Dartmouth, Case Western?, Rutgers?, Johns Hopkins? BC? BU?</p>