Early Reports USNews Best Colleges 2009

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<p>Well, yeah, but there are a significant number of people who would consider applying to Princeton, Berkeley, and Michigan. For them, the comparison makes sense. But who's considering the relative academic stature of Caltech, Michigan, and West Point?</p>

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<p>School/08 Rank/09 Rank/Change</p>

<p>1 Harvard University (MA) 2 1 1
2 Princeton University (NJ) 1 2 -1
3 Yale University (CT) 3 3 0
4 Massachusetts Institute of Technology 7 4 3
4 Stanford University (CA) 4 4 0
6 University of Pennsylvania 5 6 -1
6 California Institute of Technology 5 6 -1
8 Columbia University (NY) 9 8 1
8 University of Chicago 9 8 1
8 Duke University (NC) 8 8 0
11 Dartmouth College (NH) 11 11 0
12 Northwestern University (IL) 14 12 2
12 Washington University in St. Louis 12 12 0
14 Cornell University (NY) 12 14 -2
15 Johns Hopkins University (MD) 14 15 -1
16 Brown University (RI) 14 16 -2
17 Rice University (TX) 17 17 0
18 University of Notre Dame (IN) 19 18 1
18 Vanderbilt University (TN) 19 18 1
18 Emory University (GA) 17 18 -1
21 University of California—Berkeley * 21 21 0
22 Carnegie Mellon University (PA) 22 22 0
23 University of Virginia * 23 23 0
23 Georgetown University (DC) 23 23 0
25 University of California—Los Angeles * 25 25 0
26 University of Michigan—Ann Arbor * 25 26 -1
27 University of Southern California 27 27 0
28 Tufts University (MA) 28 28 0
29 Wake Forest University (NC) 30 29 1
30 University of North Carolina—Chapel Hill * 28 30 -2
31 Brandeis University (MA) 31 31 0
32 College of William and Mary (VA) * 33 32 1
33 New York University 34 33 1
34 Boston College 35 34 1
35 University of Wisconsin—Madison * 38 35 3
35 University of California—San Diego * 38 35 3
35 Georgia Institute of Technology * 35 35 0
35 University of Rochester (NY) 35 35 0
35 Lehigh University (PA) 31 35 -4
40 University of Illinois—Urbana - Champaign * 38 40 -2
41 Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute (NY) 44 41 3
41 University of Washington * 42 41 1
41 Case Western Reserve University (OH) 41 41 0
44 University of California—Irvine * 44 44 0
44 University of California—Santa Barbara * 44 44 0
44 University of California—Davis * 42 44 -2
47 Penn State University—University Park * 48 47 1
47 University of Texas—Austin * 44 47 -3
49 University of Florida * 49 49 0
50 Yeshiva University (NY) 52 50 2
51 University of Miami (FL) 52 51 1
51 Tulane University (LA) 50 51 -1
53 University of Maryland—College Park * 54 53 1
53 George Washington University (DC) 54 53 1
53 Syracuse University (NY) 50 53 -3
56 Ohio State University—Columbus * 57 56 1
56 Pepperdine University (CA) 54 56 -2
58 University of Pittsburgh * 59 58 1
58 University of Georgia * 59 58 1
60 Boston University 57 60 -3
61 University of Minnesota—Twin Cities * 71 61 10
61 Clemson University (SC) * 67 61 6
61 Fordham University (NY) 67 61 6
64 Texas A&M University—College Station * 62 64 -2
64 Rutgers—New Brunswick (NJ) * 59 64 -5
66 Miami University—Oxford (OH) * 67 66 1
66 Southern Methodist University (TX) 67 66 1
66 Purdue University—West Lafayette (IN) * 64 66 -2
66 University of Iowa * 64 66 -2
66 University of Connecticut * 64 66 -2
71 Indiana University—Bloomington * 75 71 4
71 Virginia Tech * 71 71 0
71 Michigan State University * 71 71 0
71 University of Delaware * 71 71 0
71 Worcester Polytechnic Institute (MA) 62 71 -9
76 Baylor University (TX) 75 76 -1
77 SUNY—Binghamton * 82 77 5
77 Marquette University (WI) 82 77 5
77 University of Colorado—Boulder * 79 77 2
80 Clark University (MA) 91 80 11
80 St. Louis University 82 80 2
80 Colorado School of Mines* 75 80 -5
83 University of Alabama * 91 83 8
83 University of Tulsa (OK) 91 83 8
83 American University (DC) 85 83 2
83 SUNY College of Env. Science and Forestry * 85 83 2
83 North Carolina State University—Raleigh * 85 83 2
83 Stevens Institute of Technology (NJ) 75 83 -8
89 Drexel University (PA) 108 89 19
89 University of California—Riverside * 96 89 7
89 University of Vermont * 96 89 7
89 University of Nebraska—Lincoln * 91 89 2
89 Iowa State University * 85 89 -4
89 University of Kansas * 85 89 -4
89 University of Denver 85 89 -4
96 University of Arizona * 96 96 0
96 SUNY—Stony Brook * 96 96 0
96 Northeastern University (MA) 96 96 0
96 Auburn University (AL) * 96 96 0
96 University of Missouri—Columbia * 91 96 -5
96 University of California—Santa Cruz * 79 96 -17
102 Florida State University * 112 102 10
102 University of San Diego 107 102 5
102 University of Massachusetts—Amherst * 96 102 -6
102 Howard University (DC) 96 102 -6
102 Illinois Institute of Technology 96 102 -6
102 University of the Pacific (CA) 96 102 -6
108 University of Oregon * 112 108 4
108 University of South Carolina—Columbia * 112 108 4
108 University of Dayton (OH) 112 108 4
108 University of Oklahoma * 108 108 0
108 University of Tennessee * 96 108 -12
113 University of New Hampshire * 108 113 -5
113 Texas Christian University 108 113 -5
113 Brigham Young University—Provo (UT) 79 113 -34
116 University of Kentucky * 122 116 6
116 Catholic University of America (DC) 122 116 6
116 Washington State University * 118 116 2
116 Ohio University * 112 116 -4
121 Clarkson University (NY) 124 121 3
121 Arizona State University * 124 121 3
121 Michigan Technological University * 124 121 3
121 University at Buffalo—SUNY * 118 121 -3
125 Colorado State University * 124 125 -1
125 University of Arkansas * 124 125 -1
127 New Jersey Institute of Technology * 124 127 -3
127 University of San Francisco NR 127
127 University of Utah* NR 127
130 Kansas State University * 124 130 -6
130 Samford University (AL) 118 130 -12
130 Duquesne University NR 130
130 Louisiana State University—Baton Rouge * NR 130
NR Loyola University Chicago 112 NR
NR Missouri University of Science & Technology * 118 NR</p>

<p>Biggest Risers:</p>

<p>89 Drexel University (PA) 108 89 +19
80 Clark University (MA) 91 80 +11
61 University of Minnesota—Twin Cities * 71 61 +10
102 Florida State University * 112 102 +10
83 University of Alabama * 91 83 +8
83 University of Tulsa (OK) 91 83 +8
89 University of California—Riverside * 96 89 +7
89 University of Vermont * 96 89 +7
61 Clemson University (SC) * 67 61 +6
61 Fordham University (NY) 67 61 +6
116 University of Kentucky * 122 116 +6
116 Catholic University of America (DC) 122 116 +6</p>

<p>Biggest Fallers:</p>

<p>113 Brigham Young University—Provo (UT) 79 113 -34
96 University of California—Santa Cruz * 79 96 -17
108 University of Tennessee * 96 108 -12
130 Samford University (AL) 118 130 -12
71 Worcester Polytechnic Institute (MA) 62 71 -9
83 Stevens Institute of Technology (NJ) 75 83 -8
102 University of Massachusetts—Amherst * 96 102 -6
102 Howard University (DC) 96 102 -6
102 Illinois Institute of Technology 96 102 -6
102 University of the Pacific (CA) 96 102 -6
130 Kansas State University * 124 130 -6</p>

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<p>Not sure that having a football team makes a university well rounded - last I checked, most football teams were largely male :)</p>

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<p>Many of the folks on the offensive line are very round.</p>

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<p>You might be surprised. Look over the some of the motley lists that kids posting on CC commonly put together and you can find groupings even more curious than that.</p>

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<p>Yeah, but (and I'm arguing just for the heck of it) doesn't that argue for putting the universities and the LACs on the same list?</p>

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<p>That's what Forbes did, and since they are all for undergraduate education, it is much more sensible.</p>

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<p>Maybe I'll get that raise!! Thanks!!</p>

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<p>When can we expect the online version to be updated?</p>

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<p>Carleton moves down? Flawed. Seriously flawed.</p>

<p>;-)</p>

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<p>Avian, I am not sure why you say the new rankings have been "leaked" -- as I mentioned, the 2009 issue has been on sale at at least a couple of newsstands in New York City since at least yesterday.</p>

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<p>Hey Donna, wasn't there an "up and coming" school list? What schools were mentioned?</p>

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<p>Did I miss the LAC list?</p>

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<p>I suspect they are using the "leaked" language because those editions were not supposed to be sold. "Leaked" (in this usage) doesn't necessarily mean that the early information came from within the USNews organization.</p>

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<p>What Forbes did was use a who's who book that one can get their dog listed in and random posts on a site where people with bad grades get to take it on on their profs. I'd rather have the Dean of the local beauty school ranking colleges--it would be more accurate.</p>

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<p>Yes, it does. And many applicants, including my own D, have both national universities and LACs on their list. They have to make that comparison and ranking in their own minds whether USNWR does it or not.</p>

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<p>Yes. It's on post #2 of this thread.</p>

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<p>"I'd rather have the Dean of the local beauty school ranking colleges--it would be more accurate."</p>

<p>Well, now you do. ;)</p>

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<p>coureur, I apologize. I meant the complete National LAC list. I should have been specific.</p>

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<p>Up and coming, national universities:</p>

<p>George Mason
Clemson
USC
U Md. Baltimore
Drexel
Portland State
U Central FL
Azusa Pacific
UC Riverside
UNC Charlotte
U San Diego
U. South Carolina - Columbia
Ball State
Indiana/Purdue - Indianapolis
Northeastern
Ohio State U - Columbus
UC Irvine
UC San Diego
U South Florida</p>

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<p>Did they list up and coming LACs?</p>