<p>You can't just look at percentages either. Columbia has a very low acceptance rate, but not necessarily harder to get into than Princeton, with a higher acceptance rate. Columbia, for example, gets a lot of underqualified applicants just for being in NYC.</p>
<p>ummm...i didnt intend to cause such controversy over a simple question. If you guys think this question is bogus, there's NO NEED for you to come into this thread and talk crap about how stupid the topic is. I'm sorry if I put up another "easiest ivy league to get into" thread; didn't realize that there were so many (I'm new). But still, if you're here just to say what a stupid question it is, it sounds like such a *****y thing to do. IGNORE IT PEOPLE. NOT THAT HARD. </p>
<p>and no ones answered my question yet about COrnell's business/medical school.....</p>
<p>Columbia's business school was ranked 15th, USNWR
Med School was ranked 14</p>
<p>It wasn't a stupid question. It was just a question that opened up a lot of tangents such as how colleges are ranked, and the lottery nature of admissions at the extremely competitive schools. New people join CC all the time. The same topics are recycled as people come and go. There is only so much to talk about.</p>
<p>Columbia business school is ranked #9 this year, not 15th. Its been as high as #5 and low as #9 in the last 8 years in USNEWS and as high as #2 in financial times and forbes. It has never recently been out of the top 10, in fact the school was in uproar at its recent low ranking. Generally it is considered in the top 5-7 schools.</p>
<p>Anyway who cares what an MBA school is ranked? I go there and undergrads get ZERO benefit of its existence.</p>
<p>Cornell is overall the easiest Ivy to get into. I actually saw a Cornell sanctioned report from two years ago admitting it! I wish I kept the link...interesting report though. Apparently Cornell is shopped around most often with Northwestern, JHU, etc.</p>
<p>The list is more complex than simply listing all eight Ivies. It probably goes like this, from hardest to easiest.</p>
<ol>
<li>Harvard</li>
<li>Yale, Princeton</li>
<li>Wharton</li>
<li>Columbia College</li>
<li>Dartmouth, Brown</li>
<li>Penn College</li>
<li>Cornell CALS</li>
<li>Penn SEAS</li>
<li>Cornell Engineering</li>
<li>Columbia SEAS</li>
<li>Penn Nursing</li>
<li>Cornell- NY State Schools</li>
</ol>
<p>Its pretty difficult to judge up and down a couple spots on where you will get in. I got into Columbia College out of high school but not Brown for example.</p>
<p>That is one of the standard criticisms of the USNWR rankings. Stanford was ranked #1 when they first came out, and the Stanford president immediately denounced the whole thing as ridiculous. Another Stanford president later asked how a supposedly stable institution can vary in the ranking from #17 to #9 to #13 in a three year period. (Numbers are approximate - he was talking about a diffferent school and I don't have the article with me.)</p>
<p>I was actually taking about Cornell's med/business not Columbia's. sorry.</p>
<p>Slipper, I disagree about placing engineering lower. Engineering schools have higher acceptance rates, but higher stats. For the same person, engineering is not easier to get into than the college.</p>
<p>I have actually seen the engineering thing first-hand. The scores are higher on average but the high school GPAs are lower and ECs are much less relevant. Often recruits are encouraged to apply to engineering if they cannot get into the general school. This is most blatant at Columbia, but the others arent that different. The one exception might be Cornell.</p>
<p>
[quote]
1. Harvard
2. Yale, Princeton
4. Wharton
5. Columbia College
6. Dartmouth, Brown
8. Penn College
9. Cornell CALS
10. Penn SEAS
11. Cornell Engineering
12. Columbia SEAS
13. Penn Nursing
14. Cornell- NY State Schools
[/quote]
</p>
<p>What about Brown's PLME? I'd say that its 8 year undergrad/Med program it would rank at least as high as Yale / Princeton / Wharton.</p>
<p>Yeah I would put PLME as high as HYPW.</p>
<p>Lol I guess 1 except ion is still 1/3 of the engineering schools in the ivy league. If I recall correctly, Cornell's engineering school has a much higher percentage of top 10% ppl than the CAS, especially several years back when the percentageof 10% highschoolers there was much lower. I've never found any comparison data for penn though, even though that's where I"m going.</p>
<p>There are other special programs like PLME across the ivy league, like Penn's M&T program.</p>
<p>yeah, I looked into it. Cornell engineering is stronger than CAS in terms of selectivity. I would say Columbia is strongly the opposite.</p>
<p>"of course they're all difficult but of all 8 schools, one of them has to be the easiest of the 8."</p>
<p>...right.</p>