<p>There’s no such thing as an “easiest” Ivy. If you think there is, you don’t belong at one.</p>
<p>A good non-ivy for CS would have to be Carrnegie Mellon. Top-notch program in Computer Science.</p>
<p>They dont mean 3rd or 4th tier in general as school, they are just making tiers within the Ivy League of schools. UPenn is by far a 1st tier school in the nation.
Hope I explained that correctly</p>
<p>^ i was making tiers in terms of difficulty of admissions. for example, it’s harder to get in to Georgetown than Michigan but I would consider Michigan the better quality school. Similarly, it’s slightly harder to get in to Brown than Penn but I consider Penn the better quality choice.</p>
<p>I’ll make this very simple.</p>
<p>Tier 1: Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Brown, Cornell, Columbia, Pennsylvania, Dartmouth</p>
<p>choklit rain- I think Cornell Engineering should be one tier higher. At least at my school, many people got waitlisted/rejected there (I don’t know anyone that got in, and I’m around the AP Math/Science crowd a ton). However, I do know many (about thirteen) less qualified people who got into Penn, Brown, and Cornell’s regular schools. Maybe this was just a weird year for our school with Cornell engineering. I still have no idea why I didn’t get in.</p>
<p>Michigan isn’t better than Georgetown across the board, only in certain programs. And it works both ways.</p>
<p>Michigan is better across the board than Georgetown in MOST comparable programs.</p>
<p>i agree with juan</p>
<p>ChocklitRain, Brown IS more selective than Dartmouth, Penn and Cornell. And, I consider Brown equal with Yale and Princeton and the better “quality choice” than the rest.</p>
<p>This isn’t a Georgetown vs Michigan (both awesome universities by the way) thread folks. </p>
<p>This thread is to discuss the Ivy League. And the topic is ridiculous. How is it possible to determine the selectivity of individual Ivy League universities when different Ivy League schools have different programs and types of applicant pools that apply to those programs? Can one compare admissions into Columbia and Cornell Engineering to admissions into Brown or Dartmouth? How about Cornell Agriculture, Hotel Management, Human Ecology or Industrial and Labor Relations to any other Ivy League program? How about Wharton? Is there an Ivy League equivallent to any of those special Columbia, Cornell and Penn programs, each of which have their own admissions offices? It is not possible to compare the overall admissions figures at those three universities to the overall admissions figures and the remaining 5 Ivy League schools (Brown, Dartmouth, Harvard, Princeton and Yale) since they only have one central admissions office that admits all applicants, regardless of major. Theonly fair comparison would be Penn CAS, Cornell CAS, Columbia College and the remaining 5 Ivies. In this regarded, HYP would be more selective than the remaining 5, all of which should have roughly similar admissions statistics.</p>
<p>But Juan also makes a great point. At that level, differentiating between universities is very petty.</p>