economics

<p>does anyone have the econ undergrad rankings? I'm just curious to know who the top 10s are~</p>

<p>the undergrad rankings dont exist like that but for econ, many people would say chicago is #1 (along with the places with like wharton but they are obviusly much more business focused)</p>

<p>"the undergrad rankings dont exist like that but for econ"</p>

<p>Yes, they do exist, but I am not going to list some of the rankings I have at hand, for I wish to respect copyrights.</p>

<p>Drop by your College Counseling Office and ask; if they have a library of more than 5 books, they will have at least one such book of rankings of undergraduate programs of study.</p>

<p>-Cesare</p>

<p>What books would those be?</p>

<p>US News only does business (no economics) and engineering.</p>

<p>Similar subjects have been discussed before and the consensus is that those rankings you see are all for graduate programs.</p>

<p>In a grad-school econ ranking, MIT and Chicago are tied for number one but the usual disclaimer applies, I dont know how old the ranking is, its for graduate not undergrad, rankings dont matter that much, etc.</p>

<p>The list happens to look like this:
1. Massachusetts Institute of Technology, University of Chicago
3. Harvard University, Princeton University, Stanford University, University of California–Berkeley
7. Yale University
8. Northwestern University
9. University of Pennsylvania
10. University of California–San Diego</p>

<p>Thanks for the replies!</p>

<p>ottothecow: "What books would those be?</p>

<p>Similar subjects have been discussed before and the consensus is that those rankings you see are all for graduate programs."</p>

<p>Discussed by who?</p>

<p>Anyways...here is one book that explicitly ranks undergraduate programs (a.k.a. majors) at various American universities:</p>

<p>Gourman Report</p>

<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0679777806/ref=pd_sxp_f/103-1902116-8821425?v=glance&s=books%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0679777806/ref=pd_sxp_f/103-1902116-8821425?v=glance&s=books&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Another guide that doesn't explicitly rank, but groups together programs based on quality:</p>

<p>Rugg's</p>

<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1883062586/ref=pd_sbs_b_1/103-1902116-8821425?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1883062586/ref=pd_sbs_b_1/103-1902116-8821425?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance&lt;/a> </p>

<p>-Cesare</p>

<p>Well yes, there are the various editions of the gourman report but the most recent is 1997 which in many fields is just way too old. The info in a book published then is almost 10 years old and changing faculty/recent developments in a lot of fields can have a huge effect.</p>

<p>Nice call on the ruggs though, I'll have to take a look at it (although it doesnt have actual rankings but we all know those dont matter).</p>

<p>The other problem with rankings like the Gourman Report and Ruggs is the lack of any identifiable methodology. Lke them or not, USNWR rankings are the only rankings available with a published, recognized methodology. Unlike the undergrad rankings, the grad school rankings (not professional school, though) are pretty solid.</p>

<p>As one reviewer said "Because the 1995 National Research Council study (based on 1992-93 surveys) is out-of-date, I rely exclusively on the most current U.S. News academic reputation surveys (conducted between 1999 and 2001) for the major fields of professional and academic study (not to be confused with the U.S. News rankings of professional schools, which weigh a variety of irrelevant factors in addition to academic reputation). Those core fields are: Law, Medicine, Biology, Chemistry, Computer Science, Geology, Applied and Theoretical Mathematics, Physics, Economics, Engineering, English, History, Philosophy, Political Science, Psychology, Sociology. "</p>

<p>At this point, you don't really need lists to determine which school has the best undergrad econ or math or physics or pre-med. It's pretty well-known which schools are best in those respective categories.</p>