<p>I, for one, do wish that schools would get rid of ED (or at least make it so that there was NO premium for using it--like at MIT, where your chances of getting in RD are practically the same as if you applied EA). Then there wouldn't be kids who really shouldn't be applying ED but who apply ED because they don't want to lose some admissions edge. </p>
<p>Sensible plan, Brooklyn--if you aren't prepared to go to JHU over MIT, then you shouldn't apply ED to JHU. I don't think that adcoms will give it a second thought. Your app will just get put into the everygrowing pile of RD apps that they will start looking at after the New YEar.</p>
<p>Brooklyn...why on earth did you apply ED to a school you're not willing to commit to? It's against the whole POINT of ED. If you get in, you need to go. No "ifs", "ands", or "buts" about it.</p>
<p>Edit: i am referring to brooklyn's last post.</p>
<p>This post is utterly uncalled for. You ask for advice, so you should be at least grateful to others who have taken the time to give you their take on your dilemma, even if its not the kind you want to hear.</p>
<p>TheDad - I agree. I think that whether or not certain kids like this get into the big-name college or not, sooner or later their lousy attitudes get in the way of success in life. If a kid with that attitude walked into our offices, we would usher him out pronto - regardless of the fantastic degrees he may have received from fantastic universities.</p>
<p>Hayden-
I agree. Shame that this reportedly bright kid has such a giant chip on his shoulder. He flip-flopped in his college choice, and then again from asking for help to attacking those who tried to help him. And to add to everything-- he is wrong. If he does decide to keep his ED app in at JHU and gets in, he'll be required to rescind his app. at MIT so he'll never know if he would have been accepted. His defensive posture will serve him well, though, in the not-so-nice part of Baltimore in which the campus is located.</p>
<p>I was thinking about this later after I had signed off to go about doing some work for my daily bread. </p>
<p>Some of the adults who read this board have connections to various schools, though I don't know if MIT or JHU is one of them. Aside from presumably lurking adcom members who read for who knows what reasons--and why you'd read this board after a long day reading application files is beyond me--I know that several parents here are alumni interviewers for their colleges. </p>
<p>It would be pity if there were an alumni interviewer for JHU or MIT that took note of this thread. It's the kind of thing that colleges would feel worth tracking down. Yes sir, a pity.</p>
<p>The Dad, I hope it is as mild as Enron. Brooklyn may be bright, but is certainly not mature. Perhaps majoring in humility should be considered.</p>
<p>Ian-
Are you sure you posted your note on the correct thread?? What does diversity have to do with this guy's issue, unless narcissitic jerks are now a protected minority :)</p>
<p>OK-- here are Brooklyn's stats (from the "what are my chances" thread).I don't think he has to worry-- doubtful he'd get into MIT.
asian male
came from Korea in 7th grade
- Full IB diploma
- GPA: 3.69
- Junior Grades
IB Math Methods II B+
IB French I B+
IB English I A
IB Psychology A (IB Exam: 6/7)
IB Physics B+
IB History of the Americas A
IB TOK A</p>
<ul>
<li>SAT Math IIC - 780</li>
<li>SAT Writing - 780</li>
<li>SAT Chem - 680 (retaking)</li>
<li><p>SAT I's - 1390 (710 math, 680 verbal) this is bad</p></li>
<li><p>great recommendations</p></li>
<li><p>great interview at MIT</p></li>
<li><p>government internship - 3 week helping disabled persons</p></li>
<li><p>some literature awards, publications</p></li>
<li><p>science honor society</p></li>
<li><p>national honor society</p></li>
<li><p>vice president at SETA (animal rights)</p></li>
<li><p>i've done tons of clubs/volunteer...it's stupid to list it all</p></li>
</ul>
<p>all i've got are my good junior grades, great recommendations, good SAT II scores and the fact that i'm an immigrant of 4 1/2 yrs. I feel like vomitting.</p>
<p>it was a joke to myself really. im really annoyed with all this diversity crap. i personally think it should racally blind, as in you dont list your race. i wouldnt be suprised if some ultra liberal hippy school started making being an ******* versus being a nice guy a facet of diversity. so i said diversity is a bitch, because you quoted a yale rep. talking about accepting jerks versus nice guys</p>
<p>Ian-
???? Are you referring to the Yale rep who said that there is no need to admit jerks when there are plenty of equally qualified nice guys/girls (or words to that effect??) I made my comment about "Brooklyn" with that quote in mind, but I posted it <em>after</em> you made the diversity comment. I am confused.... either that or clairvoyant.. and knew you were going to type your post :)</p>
<p>Aww, don't be scum - no need to dig up this person's "STATS" to insult his chances at schools. His reasoning is warped, at best, but personal attacks aren't warranted.</p>
<p>Pebbles-
He posted his own stats on another thread. How is this "digging them up"? I merely looked to see if he was still on the CC as he said he wasn't looking here anymore, and it linked me to his other thread. He put the info out there, not me. He posted his stats in a thread he started called "Chances at MIT, UVA, Georgetown, JHU, Carnegie Mellon, UPenn and NYU." And, I agree- personal attacks AREN'T warranted. You shouldn't call people scum.</p>
<p>Don't try it! Recinding your ED admission is a BIG no-no especially when dealing with MIT. I know this from personal experience. Two people I know from an elite HS here in NJ recinded their ED offers after being accepted to MIT. MIT found out because elite colleges share a list of ED students. They were subsequently denied entry into MIT and every other school they were accepted to also recinded their offers of acceptance. Smart kids with no schools to attend, both ended up in local state shools....the moral is don't mess with this@!</p>
<p>Tribegirl...your post says it all....hope he sees it. Best advice was to change the ED school to RD now. Second option....if he gets in ED, go to the school. That is not a bad thing. He liked it enough to call it a first choice at some point, so it is not like it is a terrible choice for him. Worst option, rescind the ED offer and experience what the kids from TribeGirl's school did.</p>
<p>Some of the adult posters on this board should go back and take a few classes in humility as well. I am not defending the poster's stance, but I AM defending his right to come to a public forum and ask a question without being subjected to excessive criticism, character bashing, and not-so-veiled threats. Some of these responses are shameful, especially coming from supposedly mature adults. ~berurah</p>
<p>The one specific piece of admissions info that the colleges share is the list of those they accept under a binding ED agreement. Both JHU and MIT make this info available with student name and SSN so the info can be crossed checked agains applicants at other schools in the event the student does not withdraw his apps from his ED schools or has applied to multiple schools ED. If you are accepted to JHU early, your name will be on this list and MIT does check it. This has been standard procedure for years. Anyone wanting to back out of an ED commitment has a long, tedious process in order to do so, and he'd better have a good reason. </p>
<p>Also school counselors are reminded of the ED commitment a student has made when he is accepted ED, so that again, the student is reminded to remove his name from admisssions considerations at other school. If this is not done, there can be a host of consequences. Sometimes you are just dropped from consideration from the other schools, sometimes you are auto rejected, sometimes the schools will ask if you have been accepted elsewhere ED as your name appears on the list and reminds you of your obligation to withdraw other apps.</p>