ED + Chances at Individual Colleges!

Colleges and Universities A-Z Brown University
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<p>1.) For any of the Ivy Leagues plus Duke, Stanford, and JHU, are there any high EARLY DECISION acceptance rates to specific colleges (i.e Arts and Sciences, Engineering) of the universities???</p>

<p>-For example, acceptance rate for WOMEN at the College of Engineering at Cornell is about 54%. I would imagine that ED rate for the Engineering college, for women, it is perhaps near 70%. Simply because of the rarity of women in the engineering field., the rate is so high and thus easy to get in.</p>

<p>(I would like to say that I am a male so engineering doesn’t go to my benefit)</p>

<p>My goal is to do pre-med and I want to know particularly which of those universities I have listed above have high ED Rates to certain colleges such as Engineering or Arts and Sciences.</p>

<p>First, I would like to say that I am a male, asian indian from NJ. For a quick glance at my academic stats, I have an SAT I of 1480 and SAT IIS of Math IIC - 800, IC- 760, Bio- 790, Physics- 790, Latin- 750, Writing- 640 and I am finishing with 8 AP classes - BIO, Chem, Phys B, Statistics, BC Calc, AB Calc, Latin: Vergil, and Eng Lang. In addition, I have great extra-curriculars which I do not feel like expounding and also solid grades with a solid average of about an 88 at a top distinguished boarding high school at Deerfield Academy. At my school, around 33% of the graduating classes get accepted into ivy leagues although most are athletes, legacies, and URMS. However, my average is on target for some of the top universities.</p>

<p>Currently, although I had been accepted to several great colleges including JHU, Vanderbilt, Michigan, Bowdoin, and others, my luck did not fare out at Cornell, a school I truly want to attend beyond its academic caliber and name. However, I did not apply early decision, which could have been for my benefit.</p>

<p>Currently, I am taking a year off/abroad. I had decided early during the summer before senior year that I would take a year off to go do research work and community service at a medical college in India. And thus, I probably will give my shot at applying Early decision this fall to one of the best colleges in addition to a few more regular decision colleges.</p>

<p>Once again, I really appreciate the help you provide in these forums. I know I have asked very specific, pinpointing questions about ED, but I am really hoping that I can reach my goals. Also, just reading about the schools and about other people gives me an impression of where I stand and where I should aim for.</p>

<p>Thanks.</p>

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<p>"I had been accepted to several great colleges including JHU, Vanderbilt, Michigan, Bowdoin, and others,"</p>

<p>I don't get it. Have you already been admitted to one of the schools you ask about? If so, why are you still talking about applying?</p>

<p>You appear to have had your choice of at least one of each great private university, great public university, and great LAC. If you did not want to go to any of these places, what are you looking for? </p>

<p>If you want to go to medical school, any of these places would be fine. So why not get on with your life?</p>

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<p>Yeah, however, I did not really like JHU and Vanderbilt was a backup plan. I really wanted to pursue a place like Cornell and Brown because of its environments. Basicall, from the additional factors such as the people, community, location, and from some of the professors I have met, I really want to go there. Thus, my goal is to get accepted and I want to get some feedback in the best way how.</p>

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<p>I'm sort of surprised that you didn't get into Cornell if you got into Bowdoin, Michigan, and JHU. All three are great schools. Was there a particular reason why you disliked Bowdoin? (It's great for pre-med, probably just as good as Cornell.) I'm also curious as to why you love both Brown and Cornell, as they strike me as being very different schools.</p>

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<p>Ok, at least I understand the question, sort of. You did not like any of the colleges where you were accepted, and you want advice on how to improve your chances on a second round of applications to a different set of colleges. Is that right?</p>

<p>Obviously your numbers would be suitable for almost any college in the US, as your first round of applications proved. For premed, the most effective strategy might be to focus on top liberal arts colleges, if you can find some that would appeal more than Bowdoin. These places have excellent med school placement and easier admission than the Ivies and Duke. </p>

<p>On the other hand, if you are specifically looking at the Ivies, esp Brown and Cornell, then I am back to being confused. Not only are these two places much different than one another, as noted by bjrwrh, but the question of ED rates based on school is even more confounding. Brown does not have different schools, everyone applies to the same place, no matter what their academic interests may be. Cornell does have separate applications to different schools. But if you know which school you want, then this does not really matter, you apply to the school you want. If you don't know the school you want, then how do you know you want Cornell?</p>

<p>To try an answer: Columbia's engineering school has a relatively high admssion rate, and I believe it is even higher ED. However, this may be due to self selection of the applicant pool, rather than easier admissions. </p>

<p>Maybe you need to take some time to rethink your goals, come up with a list of places that would meet them, and then apply. If your only real goal is to get into med school, then the places you were accepted, along with many, many others, would be fine.</p>

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<p>Also, Cornell is easier to get into than Brown (and I'm not just saying that because I'm going to Brown).</p>

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Cornell is easier to get into than Brown

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<p>Well, I suppose. Since no one applies to "Cornell", but rather to individual schools, the overall difficulty of admission is not particularly useful information. If Engineering was Sam's actual interest, and not just an example, then Cornell might well be more difficult than Brown.</p>

<p>It comes back to what is desired. A list of schools for engineering might look very different from a list for classics.</p>

<p>Granted it is propaganda, but here is what Cornell says about applying to a particular school at Cornell based on admission probability:</p>

<p>"Q: Which college at Cornell will offer me the best chance of admission?</p>

<p>A: That's not really an appropriate question. If you apply to a particular college solely on the basis of its acceptance rate, the chances are good that the selection process will work against you. It will be more difficult to show logical reasoning for making your application to a particular program or major. During selection, all seven undergraduate units carefully evaluate the "match" between an applicant's academic interests and the college to which he or she is applying. If you do not seem to be a good match for your chosen college, you risk being refused.</p>

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<p>Having the "any of the Ivy Leagues plus Duke, Stanford, and JHU" attitude is not the right attitude to have when youre trying to make the next 4 years of your life, not just profitable, but enjoyable.</p>

<p>First of all, before worrying about ED percentages you need to decide where you really want to go to school. Presige-wise, none of those schools really have a difference as far as your career is concerned. Your parents or friends may be more wow-ed at Harvard or Yale, but i can promise that if thats a main reason of going there, it may very well prove to be a dumb reason. </p>

<p>Getting into a good Medical school will be harder at some of those schools. At JHU, for example, where probably half of the entering students are considering pre-med, coupled with the competitive nature of the programs, you will probably almost die from exhaustion and still not be in better position of applying than you would be at Bowdoin doing half the work and having more fun while at it. </p>

<p>Dartmouth is in a village
Columbia is on the border of Harlem/Manhattan
Harvard/Brown/Yale have New England city feels
Duke's atmosphere is probably not comparable to any of the aforementioned schools as fraternity and southern life are predominant</p>

<p>Regarding your original question, it is probably impossible to answer since there are so many factors to do this.
However Cornell School of Nursing ED is your best bet statistically if i am not mistaken</p>

<p>In order to improve your chances decide where you want to go, concentrate on that, and no matter where you end up (with your grades and everything you'll at least get into one of your top choices) you will be a lot happier and more successful.</p>

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<p>Cornell no longer has a nursing school, and when it did, it was only for people who already had a bachelor's degree.</p>

<p>Penn does have a nursing program, and it does have a high acceptance rate. However, I would not suggest it as the best route to medicine. You should go to nursing school if you want to be a nurse. They are different professions. The nursing curriculum would require different training and courses than a standard premed. Med school admissions committees might look very favorably on someone who had practiced as a nurse for a number of years, then decided to go to medical school, they might have a different attitude towards someone who was applying directly from nursing school. There may be predjudices based on the traditional women's role of nursing and the less demanding academic standards that could work to the disadvantage of an applicant.</p>

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<p>a girl in my school got accepted to Penn nursing. I however am a male seeking simply pre-med. What is the lifestyle and course curriculum of Penn nursing and also what is the ED acceptance rate (Approx)?</p>

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<p>i think its around 35-40, but you're gonna be ... a nurse.</p>

<p>not a pre-med student, but a nursing student; transfering is a pain.
Also if you think about it, it's still Penn, and i doubt they'd take someone unless that person shows interest in nursing (like an internship). To spot someone trying to get into Penn from the easiest door, is not THAT impossibly hard; so i doubt that you'll have a big boost.</p>