hi,
i was just wondering if it’s possible to back out of after being offerd admission ED.
hi,
i was just wondering if it’s possible to back out of after being offerd admission ED.
<p>From what I know there isn't technically a legal binding like you HAVE to go there....but..pretty much you should accept barring any extreme circumstances</p>
<p>Basically, they wont MAKE u go there if u definately dont want to...but i could be wrong</p>
<p>The issue is not where you go but the money you have contracted to pay. When you make a "contract" by applying ED you agree to the offer. They cannot make you matriculate but they could make you pay.</p>
<p>you don't have to go and can cancel but u can ONLY go to ur state school if u get out of the binding contract.</p>
<p>The complication is that your HS counseling dept. will be in default with you should they help/comply by sending info to additional schools you with to apply to. There is a problem from that side......how will you get the info to the school for an additional acceptance? Perhaps the statement regarding State school is that those schools may require less in the way of information from a counselor....but you'd still have the transcript issue.</p>
<p>Where a number of colleges allow an out is when the financial aid package they offer still leaves you unable to afford to attend.</p>
<p>That is an out but I was not clear this OP was asking about the ONE and ONLY. I think many kids think they can go ED and easily find an alternative and walk away. I think perhaps one could but not until second semester or perhaps later. I don't know of anyone who did this but I came from a boarding school who had strict rules on this.</p>
<p>when a student applies to a school ED, the student, the GC and sometimes the parents must sign the application stating that if admitted they will attend. Some schools will let you out of your binding ED commitiment is the financial aid is not sufficient, usually to attend your local state university. </p>
<p>The world of admissions is a very small one where directors and adcoms all know each other as most travel in the same circuit. when you apply to one of the Ivies, they have a joint statement, that lays out the ED process, and they pretty much state that they will not take you if you were admitted ED elsewhere. Schools do share ED list and do have a "gentlemen's agreement" not to take students who have commited to attending other schools.</p>
<p>Hazmat is correct that when students apply and do not keep their ED commitments, the GC is not suppose to allow you to apply to other schools (because you are suppose to withdraw all other applications if admitted ED). For the GC it will be a matter of ethics and their credibility is on the line with a particular school(s). Remember, that from your schools perspective the admissions process is about building relationships. Your school wants adcoms to visit and recruit from your school, they also want the colleges to accept other students. </p>
<p>Colleges have been known to black list schools and future applicants over the behavior of the GC and administration. A student who defaults places the GC and their school between a rock and a hard place because they must now balance the needs of one (you, who choses not to honor your agreement) against the needs of many -other students applying RD and future applicants. Often this means that you are ultimately going to end up on the down side of the power dynamic.</p>
<p>Wait a sec. The ED binding clause doesn't apply if you apply to non-US schools also, right? </p>
<p>I'm planning to ED Cornell and apply to Oxford at the same time. If this doesn't work out, then I'd have to find an EA school or give up Oxford...</p>
<p>No, ED applies to non-US schools as well. They probably have a bit less power to blacklist you internationally (probably -- not definitely), but the binding agreement doesn't change because you decided to go to school in England instead of their US institution. You'd still be blacklisting your counselor and high school by ducking out.</p>
<p>Remember, if you back out of an ED (even to go to college abroad), your counseling will probably be furious at you because you will have hurt the counselor and the school's reputation. You will need other services from the counselor this school year. The college that you decide to go to will need an end of year transcript. You may need the counselor's help with problems with classes, scholarships or other things. A counselor who is angry isn't likely to go out of their way to be helpful. In addition, your classmates who get rejected by the school that you backed out of ED or who know that their younger sibs are likely to be rejected because of your actions, also aren't likely to be going out of their way to be friendly or helpful to you.</p>
<p>ED is binding, and should be considered as such, because of the fallout on others.</p>
<p>People get confused with rolling admission - you can apply and get accepted to a rolling admission school and still do ED - they don't "count" - and with deposits - it is not ?ethical to hold places at more than one selective school, unless one acceptance is actually a waitlist, but if you are admitted to a rolling admission school, say in Sept, and you get a letter in Jan asking for a deposit for housing, while you are still waiting for RD, it is OK to send in that deposit - but you may lose your money.</p>
<p>I think colleges definitely hold an unfair advantage over the applicants, right up until acceptances go out in March, so I have no compunction about students looking for any advantage they can - but not with ED, and not when their actions hurt other students chances.</p>
<p>cangel, How much for that money you may lost? I mean the deposit for housing (roughly).
Thanks</p>
<p>Well, it depends on what the housing deposit is and what the refund policy is. Could be anywhere from $0 to couple of hundred. Our state school is so short of housing for frosh that some students apply in summer - July for the following Sept - just in order to secure housing. Those deposits are small, <$100, and I think some or all may be refundable, just depends. Many rolling admit schools won't put you in that spot.</p>
<p>I've heard that you can get out of Early Decision if the financial aid package they offer is not sufficient to cover your costs. This is a technicality though... you should only apply ED if you truly will attend the college if accepted.</p>