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<p>M2CK -I personally know two kids last year, one to Penn, the other to Yale. That’s telling since I don’t know many people personally.</p>
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<p>I noticed some schools have buildings or colleges sound like “Wa” or “Chan” or “Hsi” or something. I thought that’s Asian, but I could be wrong.</p>
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<p>A century ago, the same kind of odious statements were commonly made about another ethnic group. It is not even worthy of a rebuttal.</p>
<p>“Unless there is another jewler of the same name, it apparently that Gerald Chow was Harvard educated himself!” </p>
<p>I’m not so sure about that; from the link: “Dr. King Sing Chow, Gerald, DDS, MBA, MPA (HARVARD)…” Presumably, only the MPA is from Harvard. I didn’t recognize the degrees, so I looked it up: “The one-year Harvard Kennedy School Mid-Career Master in Public Administration (MC/MPA) is an intensive eight credit program, preceded by a one-month summer program exclusively for mid-career professionals.”</p>
<p>The Chows are nuts. By filing this lawsuit, they are telling the world that their two sons, for whose benefit they paid the $2M+, cheated in HS and may have gotten into college with the help of donations.</p>
<p>More dollars than cents? Oops, more dollars than sense.</p>
<p>This is another post from sovereigndebt who should practise what he preaches.</p>
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<p>Also, Sovereigndebt seems to be laboring under the delusion that colleges are automatically entitled to alum donations by virtue of their having attended/graduated from said institutions. </p>
<p>I completely reject that as it presumes higher-ed institutions don’t need to EARN & MAINTAIN THE REQUIRED RESPECT of the alums and their families. </p>
<p>If those institutions left graduating alums dissatisfied with their educational/collegiate experiences or otherwise didn’t do enough to earn/maintain the respect & esteem, they don’t deserve those donations.</p>
<p>NYMomoftwo-
I wondered about that (Chow’s degree). A person I know likes to talk about his time at the Harvard Business School. Turns out he attended an executive education program costing $68,000 and lasting 7 weeks total. These kinds of programs are money-makers for the school but should not be confused with their graduate degree programs.</p>
<p>Sue22, Wow! That’s expensive. I knew about these “executive” courses but had no idea they charged so much for them.</p>
<p>Is one of those executive programs (the 6 week things) the one that Tyra Banks took?</p>
<p>Yep, but Harvard offers free gelato all day long to the participants. Perhaps that is what attracted Tyra banks. </p>
<p>Most schools offer plenty of very expensive executive programs of various lengths. The beauty is that no financial aid is needed; just rich sponsors.</p>
<p>Free gelato for $9,700/wk tuition. Sounds like a deal to me.</p>
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<p>Amen to that.</p>
<p>Hmmmm… Its that time of year again. Getting many calls/letters from the schools we attended asking for donations. Just completed 4 contributions to my undergrad/grad and my DH’s undergrad/grad. His employer will match the dontations dollar for dollar. I figure we have benefitted from our education, and the respect college/ alum) seems to go both ways. We give back. It sees like the right thing to do, IMO.</p>
<p>We haven’t given to the kids schools. I am considering it, but I figure its their place to donate as alums. That said, one was VERY generous with scholarship $, so it would be the right thing to do to give back.</p>
<p>“I know an admissions officer at a small college (third tier) and he has openly stated to me they are concerned about Asian applicants because often they come to campus, hide in a cubicle in the library for four years, dont get involved in any activities or “give back to campus community” and then graduate in math/science/engineering and never look back or give back to the schools.”</p>
<p>Hmmm, I wonder where this third-tier, all-white college is located?</p>
<p>If they want donors, they should target full pay and kids from private schools where the kids and parents have been trained to contribute from K - 12 when the peer pressure to contribute is much higher. Forget GPAs and SATs!</p>
<p>One of my friends has worked for a major universitys alumni association/foundation for several years and her SIL is the director of an alumni assoc foundation. I guess it is fairly well known in alumni foundation circles that Jews collectively are by far the most generous donors to collegiate foundations. Alumni foundations are acutely aware of which groups give and which groups dont.</p>
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<p>While i do donate myself, I don’t feel it is right to expect everyone to donate to their respective alma maters if they aren’t inclined to for various reasons…especially if their undergrad experiences were bad as was the case in a past cc discussion about a Dartmouth graduate who refused to join in a class gift. </p>
<p>IME, gifts…even alum gifts to one’s alma mater should be given of one’s free will completely unencumbered by coercive pressures from other alums as was the case with that Dartmouth graduate.</p>
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<p>[SARCASM]YES! Let’s go back to the wonderful system the Ivies and many other elite private universities had before the mid-1960s. One where being a scion of a well-off establishment family trumps being an academic achiever…especially if the latter is from the middle classes or lower or of the “wrong” religion, race, creed, etc. I mean…it produced such wonderful erudite luminaries such as George W Bush. What, me worry??[/SARCASM]</p>
<p>Of COURSE donations are of one’s free will. No one is forced to write a check, and doing a very cursory perusal of the alumni giving column in the USNews, it appears that only one (Princeton) had a number over 50%. Interestingly, Dart’s is pretty high too (50%). No clue what thread you are referring to, but its sad that someone who was apparently so miserable at Dart did not choose to transfer somewhere else.</p>
<p>When I see the school name in my caller ID, I might choose to ignore the call (esp if its from DH’s school) or I might answer, at which time I usually chat it up with the poor person calling, ask if this is their campus job, ask what the worst comment they got on the phone was, etc. I then tell them I prefer to get the information in writing to review, and ask them to (a) put something in the mail to me and (b) to take me off their call list. I tell them I will contribute (I do not give a number), but only in response to a written request, not a phone solicitation. I tell them (which is the truth) that I do not give to ANY phone solicitation. I want to see the info in witing.</p>
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<p>This thread:</p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-life/1021029-two-ivies-publicly-embarrass-non-donor-seniors.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-life/1021029-two-ivies-publicly-embarrass-non-donor-seniors.html</a></p>
<p>While I agree that it is unkind to publish the name of a lone holdout, in fairness, the pressure to contribute in this specific case (described in the article) was to get a gift of $100K offered by the class of 1960 if the graduating class gave at 100%. Even if the lone holdout felt that the “negatives outweighed the positives” of her Dart experience, to potentially punish the school to the tune of $100K is pretty mean-spirited, IMO. Fortunately the class of '60 made the donation anyway. I guess they rounded up :)</p>
<p>*** BTW, that thread about the lone holdout is 2 years old.</p>