<p>Spring Junior wouldn't be that tough. CS169 and CS160 are pretty easy for upper-div CS courses. And just take one of those summer classes and do it your next summer.</p>
<p>wow, really? i have always heard that cs150 152 162 169 160 are killer project courses.</p>
<p>Yes, I believe you dont have to take design courses like cs169 to graduate for EECS am i corrrect?</p>
<p>CS150, 152, and 162 are hard. The other two not so much.</p>
<p>169, 160, 186, 188 are the easiest CS upper division courses.</p>
<p>152 is now also among the easier courses since it is no longer a project course.</p>
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<p>You need to take at least one. Have fun finding a good job if you take none.</p>
<p>hmm, do you think cs150 and 152 are very helpful for a programmer in the future?</p>
<p>Saying that CS is just learning how to program is like saying astronomy is just learning how to use the telescope. CS is far more than that and most high-paying companies will expect your to have far more skills than just programming abilities.</p>
<p>I don't mean to be condescending but I have been in Berkeley EECS for 3.5 years and trust me when I say that you will see what I mean when you enter EECS.</p>
<p>well if you're going to be a programmer and not a hardware designer there are more relevant classes for you than 150 and 152. take some cs 194 courses that you think might interest you for example. or maybe some grad courses if you can get in them.</p>
<p>thx a lot, btw what is the difficulty of those grad courses compare to upper division project courses?</p>
<p>isnt it mandatory to take a project design course such as cs150?</p>
<p>yea you have to take one of the following project design courses:
CS 150, 152, 160, 162, 164, 169, 184, 186</p>
<p>also you don't have to limit yourself to just cs courses. if you have a lot of room in your schedule, you can try to double major. a lot of cs majors i know are doubling in econ or applied math.</p>